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snackysmores 01-29-2023 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 3581963)
I guess it depended if it goes back to the 787 or not. I was on reserve in SFO on the 787 and all I ever did was go to PVG I never went to Europe.

man’s that was before all the Chinese BS…..

Did you get used a lot ?

MasterOfPuppets 01-29-2023 06:23 PM

If I wasn’t on SC I was in China. I was rarely left on long call

JTwift 01-30-2023 03:15 AM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 3581968)
I was rarely left on long call

weird

(insert sarcasm here)

elmetal 01-30-2023 04:51 AM


Originally Posted by webecheck (Post 3581878)
because you think 25hr double augment 3 days with no entry issues and us back at the same hotels is going to go junior?

the rookies will get domestic, island ANF, and bunky Japan/London if they’re lucky.

I see this spouted by everyone at UAL. go look at EWR awards. the junior lineholders are flying PLENTY of non domestic flying trips. the whole "you'll be bunkie forever" is nothing but untrue.

Brickfire 01-30-2023 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by elmetal (Post 3582069)
I see this spouted by everyone at UAL. go look at EWR awards. the junior lineholders are flying PLENTY of non domestic flying trips. the whole "you'll be bunkie forever" is nothing but untrue.

hiring has gotten ahead of the pilot groups ability to adapt and respond. non-bunkie lineholder cannot be held by someone on probation at steady state. Nobody hired 18 months ago was thinking “i’ll hold a good widebody line by start of 23, better get the 777 bid in before Christmas!” Give it time; the half-wingers will be back to reserve

elmetal 01-30-2023 05:42 AM


Originally Posted by Brickfire (Post 3582086)
hiring has gotten ahead of the pilot groups ability to adapt and respond. non-bunkie lineholder cannot be held by someone on probation at steady state. Nobody hired 18 months ago was thinking “i’ll hold a good widebody line by start of 23, better get the 777 bid in before Christmas!” Give it time; the half-wingers will be back to reserve


Even in 756, 777 and 787 elsewhere the notion that "you can't get a flying trip" is a misnomer. Majority of lines are half and half on the very bottom end. Go look, I'm not making it up. It's not just about how junior it is in EWR, we can ignore that. I'm saying the notion that bottom lineholders can't hold flying seat is just not True.

ThumbsUp 01-30-2023 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by elmetal (Post 3582091)
Even in 756, 777 and 787 elsewhere the notion that "you can't get a flying trip" is a misnomer. Majority of lines are half and half on the very bottom end. Go look, I'm not making it up. It's not just about how junior it is in EWR, we can ignore that. I'm saying the notion that bottom lineholders can't hold flying seat is just not True.

I think you need to add “right now” as a qualifier. COVID/Ukraine threw our international flying schedule for loop, so the lure of widebody flying wasn’t what it used to be. If they ever get back to the 2019 and prior schedules, you might see something entirely different as more people will be willing to give up 50% seniority to bid WB FO.

JoePatroni 01-30-2023 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 3581768)
China has reopened and we are starting direct flights. I wonder if this manpower already exists? Or if we will see a good sized WB CA bid.

also for all you new hires about to be on reserve ina WB….good luck in China. I bet that is all you will see in open time for years to come.

NRT and HND trips are mega senior, why would China be different? It will pay even more.

MasterOfPuppets 01-30-2023 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by JoePatroni;[url=tel:3582125
3582125[/url]]NRT and HND trips are mega senior, why would China be different? It will pay even more.

we’ll see if people want to deal with getting stuck in China for COVID BS.

I know I don’t trust that everything will be fine. I’m sure within the first month we will have pilots stranded in China.

Zoomie 02-03-2023 06:51 AM

Wondering if this bid is going to happen or not...


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