Better make it count. Scotty is on a mission to hire every uneducated dumb SOAB with a couple hundred hours warming up the right seat he can find.

An educated pilot with left seat experience and knows their worth gives your boy Scotty nightmares.

Scotty knows he’ll be able to gather easy YES votes in future negotiations with these low IQ, zero to hero, new hires.

So you have a class date here then?

it will take 1 week to create an AIP to a TA according to people involve with the process

and I say keep the course they will cave because the leverage our pilot group has is best ever !

Anyone get today's (3/20) MEC NC update and can post? Heard progress was made.

Check your email.

20 March 2023 Negotiating Committee Update

Last week, the Negotiating Committee (NC) met with management in direct negotiations focusing on Scheduling and Quality of Work Life (QWL) provisions. Scheduling and Staffing Subject Matter Experts (SMEs) also met to work on the many detailed topics contained within these provisions.

Additionally, Master Chair CA Garth Thompson and Negotiating Chair CA Phil Otis met with management leadership to discuss the overall progress of negotiations and discuss pathways to clear the obstacles preventing us from completing negotiations more expeditiously.

The parties exchanged proposals in most of the open areas. Management has now received the full details of our comprehensive proposal. While work continues to address differences of opinion regarding costing assumptions, management is now able to fully assess the economics that ALPA has put on the table. However, like many negotiations, the effort to close the economic gap proceeds slowly while other items remain open. This gap is largely driven by our differences in opinion with management on what constitutes an industry-leading agreement.

During the week, we continued exhaustive discussions on necessary improvements to reserve quality of life and line holder scheduling provisions. As details of those provisions are coming into focus, management has been receptive to the need to update our work rules for the first time since 2012. Our MEC and Negotiating Committee have made these issues a priority and will not rush past them.

We are making progress on improvements in the following areas, among others: increased days off for reserves, more rigid and transparent reserve assignment order, improved reserve call out times, improved reassignment restrictions, benefits for pilots affected by reassignments that return late, and finalizing the G-line and LPA much sooner in the bidding window.

We reached agreement in multiple areas, including improved rigs, improved expense limits and provisions, improved parental leave provisions, HDO (Holy Day Off) flexibility, new trip trading options, improved day off restoration provisions, and improved furlough protections.

In summary, in the several weeks since ALPA’s aggressive comprehensive proposal in early February, we have achieved gains in many areas important to United pilots, including areas where historically the Company has been reluctant to agree. Still, more work remains to be done.

The Negotiating Committee and SMEs will continue sessions with their management counterparts over the next couple of weeks leading up to the April 3-7 regular MEC meeting. Our primary goals are closing out the remaining Scheduling and QWL areas and seeking meaningful progress to narrow the gap in economic areas where we remain far apart.

As always, your interest, engagement and public displays of unity are meaningful and appreciated. Our next Negotiating Notes update is scheduled for Monday, March 27.

*everyone else just shook their heads and sighed*

How many times will we come back to the table before we file for mediation? The MEC continues to talk about how Delta was successful in getting their agreement, while ignoring to do the most important thing, instead opting for the RV route.

The fact that the latest NC update still mentions the G-line and HDO "flexibility" tells me our PBS isn't going anywhere anytime soon, global reserve is still alive, and obligations to the company on your days off are still a thing. Not a single mention of short call or FSB as well. I fear we'll get an agreement with the smallest QOL changes, but once the masses see the $480 pay rates we'll be stuck with these work rules for another decade.

Disagree…
Believe our Union has heard from the pilots. They know that QoL is a major issue here. Not just for the senior/legacy crowd, but just as much for the post mergers and especially for the new hires.
They will HAVE to address that, unless they want to lose pilots hired here within the last few years to Delta… and the morale of many of those hired after C’12.

Pay? Sure.. we all want that. But $480 an hour would only be for the top of our food chain. 777/787 Capts. I would be shocked if that affects 10% of our group. Don’t believe it will have the power to sway the MEC, let alone the pilot group.
[wouldn’t be worried about the pay.. as it seems they don’t even WANT to give us Delta rates (yet!) lol ]

I still expect a TA that equals or exceeds Deltas PWA. If not, I expect a union email telling us they are going to request mediation (in less than a month!) followed by a campaign to tell potential new hires to look elsewhere.
May 12- picketing, Nationwide.

No ILC23 that represent Dignity & Respect of not only our Profession, but for those who sacrificed to keep United alive almost 20 years ago- expect Mediation plus picketing and say good night to United Next.
United could have been?

Motch

PS) Yet we will remain
Professional
Safe
and we will Fly our Contract.

Based on the MEC updates and hearing the MEC chair in person, I believe they are working to secure those QOL gains in addition to meet/beat the Delta payrates. I wish the previous MEC would have filed for meditation rather than push the tumi TA, but as long as the current negotiations are making progress (which can be very subjective), I agree with not filling for meditation. Once they go down that road, it's likely a 12+ month process. I see it as a rather low risk to give these negotiations a chance for a month or two.