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Grumble 03-06-2023 03:14 PM
Originally Posted by sailingfun;[url=tel:3603022
3603022[/url]]Here is the funny thing about Herb. He paid his employees well below industry wages and terrible work rules and kept them smiling. Only after Herb left did SWA get contracts near the majors and industry average.
Did their operation ever really have the money to prior to 9/11? They never really rocketed to the top, everyone else just crumbled around them and they were able to capitalize on the chaos that was the 2000’s.

Now they’re a real airline, with melt downs, bad press and strike talk. :D

Dave Fitzgerald 03-06-2023 04:04 PM
Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 3602942)
I will continue to do my job to the best of my ability with the upmost professionalism until ALPA officially tells me we’re doing otherwise.
I'm sure you know this, but ALPA will never tell you to do otherwise. ALPA saying pretty much anything at all other than do your job, will be taken to be a job action, in the courts. You will not hear this, so don't be waiting for it.

sleeves 03-06-2023 04:51 PM
Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald;[url=tel:3603117
3603117[/url]]I'm sure you know this, but ALPA will never tell you to do otherwise. ALPA saying pretty much anything at all other than do your job, will be taken to be a job action, in the courts. You will not hear this, so don't be waiting for it.
ALPA has done this actually. At Continental in 1983, United in 1985, Eastern in 1989, Northwest in 1998, Comair in 2001. With various levels of success….

rickair7777 03-07-2023 04:04 AM
Originally Posted by Lenticularis (Post 3603083)
Moderators, with all this talk on tracking down individuals and work action/illegal job actions. Have you suspended any perpetrators?

Yes. 10+.
.........

WHACKMASTER 03-07-2023 05:40 AM
Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3601467)
do you think that your coworkers are not currently “flying safe, flying professionally, and flying the contract?” If they are, what are you advocating? If they aren’t, how so?
Oh geez……trolls gonna troll I suppose.

OOfff 03-07-2023 07:05 AM
Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 3603343)
Oh geez……trolls gonna troll I suppose.
questioning the intent of a post isn’t trolling, but following people around the site insulting them sure is.

Dave Fitzgerald 03-07-2023 08:32 AM
Originally Posted by sleeves (Post 3603144)
ALPA has done this actually. At Continental in 1983, United in 1985, Eastern in 1989, Northwest in 1998, Comair in 2001. With various levels of success….
Yes ALPA has done this in the past. It will not happen again in this era of management friendly court injunctions.

I would urge everyone to carefully read the SPSC ALPA email yesterday regarding Status Quo.

Delta757 03-07-2023 03:39 PM
Since the topic is already off track, I don't feel too bad adding one more off topic question that I've always wondered about, and I promise I'm not planning on doing this, I'm just curious, regarding illegal job actions:

Can the airlines go after a pilot at another ALPA carrier?
A pilot at a non ALPA carrier?
A random person?

As in someone that works at Home Depot coming on these forums advocating illegal job actions

khergan 03-07-2023 05:04 PM
Originally Posted by Delta757 (Post 3603706)
Since the topic is already off track, I don't feel too bad adding one more off topic question that I've always wondered about, and I promise I'm not planning on doing this, I'm just curious, regarding illegal job actions:

Can the airlines go after a pilot at another ALPA carrier?
A pilot at a non ALPA carrier?
A random person?

As in someone that works at Home Depot coming on these forums advocating illegal job actions
As a Home Depot employee I feel personally attacked..

andydwyer 03-07-2023 08:09 PM
Back to the “close” part of this. There is a boiling at TK of PIs that have been waiting and waiting, almost all can hold captain in Denver, talk of 45 day notices has risen substantially. News needs to come soon or the more senior of the building will be leaving.


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