It’s not APC’s role to protect the union or the company. Stop banning people for posting their opinions. Maybe it’s time for an alternative.

The forum rules that specifically address wildcat strikes and illegal job actions have been posted here since the federal injunction against ALPA (almost 2 decades). If you you don’t like the forum rules please understand that all you have to is walk away.

On one hand, I think we all understand that if the company seems to be shifting away from an employee-centric workplace, there will undoubtedly be a change the status quo…not necessarily coordinated or intentional, but a de facto move nonetheless.

On the other hand, you must understand that a website facilitating discussions of premeditated illegal work actions is completely untenable, right?

The only reason why Motch gets away with his tagline is because he has said that all along… So that is not a change in his status quo. But for the rest of us to verbalize, that we will modify our behavior if things don’t go as we wish… That’s playing with fire.

Would you be ok with saboteurs making post to harm our collective bargaining ability? We have tactless clowns in our own ranks, internet trolls who thrive on stirring feces, and professional union busters who would LOVE access to an unmoderated forum of this title.

I hope we can get our collective crap together and - at the very least- NOT shoot ourselves in the foot.

Even Motch's posts can be taken out of context when presented as evidence in court. This isn't Matlock or Law & Order... Nobody (important) in that courtroom will care about his post history. We've seen this movie before. Ask the pilots who actually sat in the courtroom how it went down.

Do you not understand the history? Forum posts have been used against unions in court cases, which then have been lost and resulted in severe damages.

The mods are trying to save you from yourselves and others.

Tell me you don’t know about the Delta 49’ers without telling me you don’t know about the Delta 49’ers.

do you think that your coworkers are not currently “flying safe, flying professionally, and flying the contract?” If they are, what are you advocating? If they aren’t, how so?

Because of the anonymous nature of this forum, I would fully expect a management member (or misguided sympathizer) to break this very rule and take a screenshot of their own post in order to get their dream TRO. If negotiations were further protracted and ugly, why wouldn’t they? How would APC possibly prevent this? It’s a slam dunk. What a liability. Such a messed-up system.

Well, just like there is a need to rehash the DYK's, to mention certain items with regards to PBS bidding, Vacation bidding, Vacancy Bidding, etc..
We have thousands of New Hires and thousands of pilots changing BES (Base, Equipment, Seat) so I do not see anything wrong with stating what I have stated for over 25years.

Do you think that any of the pilots/crews that have been involved with the rash of runway incursions are unsafe? or did they let their guard down and it bit them in the ass due to a connection of errors?
Stating something as simple as "Fly Safe" might just make a handful of pilots slow the F down and put Safety where it's suppose to be- #1.

Professionalism- We can argue day and night about calling in sick when you just don't feel right, or answering the phone when you are not required to.
If a pilot answers the phone on a rest, is he/she being professional? If she/he now doesn't get adequate rest and still FFD- is he/she Professional? Are they Safe?

Our ALPA Code of Ethics demands what we Act a certain way. I see nothing wrong with reiterating that.
You asked if some of our pilots were not flying S, P & tC.
Let me put one thing out there-

We fly from EWR to Hawaii. 3 Pilot (ETOPS) and 1:30 show.
We also flew EWR>SFO>Hawaii. Now it was a 2 Pilot crew and :45 show.
Some Captains (when in SFO) would take an earlier bus, and rush to get out on time. Other Captains would do the opposite. Same van time and no rush to get out on time as there were more items to check out before going feet wet. If they got out on time, cool. If not, oh well. (and we were usually talking 10ish mins?)
Both Captains thought they were Professional, Safe and Flew the Contract.
However, you and I and every other pilot reading this is allowed their opinion with regards to which Captain they would be.

I will NEVER advocate a work action, I will never tolerate it if I see it. I am a Professional, and I feel most of our fellow union pilots are too. But- not all of them~

Always
Motch