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FlyingSlowly 05-13-2023 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by Chuck D (Post 3633319)
For the moment the bus looks better but you’ll get there quickly either way. If a few months absolutely matter to you I would advise that they really don’t. Focus on the long game.

This is very important for everyone new to this game to understand. It's always the case with vacancy bidding, but even more especially here....you need to have been looking at the vacancy awards the last six months to get a feel on the direction your desired category is moving 3 to 6 months into the future.

But you also need to analyze the demand side of the equation, not just the pilot supply: To make solid, long-term decisions you need to to have a solid grasp of the fleet transition plans and how they affect fleet staffing requirements (not just overall, but within each base). Also how the COVID rebound, delivery hiccups (787,737Max), and MX/AD groundings (777, 737Max) create short-term irregularities...

The present is just a momentary glitch in the matrix.

RatchetA10 05-13-2023 04:23 PM

Speaking of glitches...

When you look at the latest snapshot specific for DEN 737 FO, it says ~12 awarded and 10 unfilled. The min max only had ~10 vacancies. So I'm assuming that 10 unfilled is a bug. If it's not a bug, i need to get to work on figuring out why I'm not popping up in those 10 unfilled. (bid in, looks right to me....). Helpful thoughts?

Thanks.

ThumbsUp 05-13-2023 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by RatchetA10 (Post 3636277)
Speaking of glitches...

When you look at the latest snapshot specific for DEN 737 FO, it says ~12 awarded and 10 unfilled. The min max only had ~10 vacancies. So I'm assuming that 10 unfilled is a bug. If it's not a bug, i need to get to work on figuring out why I'm not popping up in those 10 unfilled. (bid in, looks right to me....). Helpful thoughts?

Thanks.

The additional vacancies are from secondary vacancies, meaning people who bid out of DEN 737 FO. The only thing that would prevent you from filling one would be if you aren’t a 737 FO (there are others, but I think you’re a new hire).

RatchetA10 05-13-2023 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3636280)
The additional vacancies are from secondary vacancies, meaning people who bid out of DEN 737 FO. The only thing that would prevent you from filling one would be if you aren’t a 737 FO (there are others, but I think you’re a new hire).

New hire, 737 IAH FO.

I was assuming the additional from secondaries are the 2 over the initial 10 offered in the min/max (currently showing 12 awarded in the snapshot but then 10 more unfilled).

CRJJ 05-13-2023 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by RatchetA10 (Post 3636311)
New hire, 737 IAH FO.

I was assuming the additional from secondaries are the 2 over the initial 10 offered in the min/max (currently showing 12 awarded in the snapshot but then 10 more unfilled).

So 737 can get you to Denver FAST, that’s awesome. And you’re still in training, aren’t you?

hummingbear 05-13-2023 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by RatchetA10 (Post 3636277)
Speaking of glitches...

When you look at the latest snapshot specific for DEN 737 FO, it says ~12 awarded and 10 unfilled. The min max only had ~10 vacancies. So I'm assuming that 10 unfilled is a bug. If it's not a bug, i need to get to work on figuring out why I'm not popping up in those 10 unfilled. (bid in, looks right to me....). Helpful thoughts?

Thanks.

If you’re not showing up on a snapshot you think you should be on, file a Help Hub inquiry right away. If you don’t hear back in a timely manner, contact ZS (who writes the Crew Resource Updates) directly. As much as people complain about all the snapshots, this is exactly why we have them.

FlyAndRide 05-13-2023 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by RatchetA10 (Post 3636311)
New hire, 737 IAH FO.

I was assuming the additional from secondaries are the 2 over the initial 10 offered in the min/max (currently showing 12 awarded in the snapshot but then 10 more unfilled).

the weird thing is if you look at snapshots from a few days ago, it included up to 22 filled spots. Then jumped down to 11 or 12 filled and 10 unfilled. Seems like a glitch

Grumble 05-14-2023 12:56 AM


Originally Posted by FlyAndRide;[url=tel:3636381
3636381]the weird thing is if you look at snapshots from a few days ago, it included up to 22 filled spots. Then jumped down to 11 or 12 filled and 10 unfilled. Seems like a glitch

It’s not a glitch, sometimes people bid out, it creates a vacancy… then maybe decide to cancel that bid because BES isn’t shaping up how they like and the vacancy they created gets cancelled.

if there are 10 vacancies announced, 10 people are showing awarded that BES, but also showing 10 unfilled… that means 10 people who were in that BES have bid out to something else, thus creating secondary vacancies. The total vacancy for that BES is now 20.

1257 05-14-2023 05:45 AM

Hopefully they, and the company, are realizing there's a reason to not bid while the contract is unknown.

ThumbsUp 05-14-2023 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by RatchetA10 (Post 3636311)
New hire, 737 IAH FO.

I was assuming the additional from secondaries are the 2 over the initial 10 offered in the min/max (currently showing 12 awarded in the snapshot but then 10 more unfilled).


You can count the people moving out by just searching DEN 737 FO. It’s correct. Like Hummingbear said Help Hub that or call.


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