yeah, seems to me if you were worried about over speeding flaps, like the captain mentioned, you would pitch up (to bleed off airspeed), not down. Don’t understand that maneuver.

Something just ain't adding up here. This thing reads as a total loss of situational awareness. Just after this happened people were speculating that the FO accidentally went to flaps up and they were in stall recovery mode but this just is very bizarre.

Why would you not want to use the intercom? At Continental, on the 737 almost nobody used it. I can’t tell you how many times I couldn’t hear the other pilot or ATC clearly. In the last 10 years it has become a norm to use. I can hear everything clearly. I can’t imagine not using it now. It is just one less thing to struggle with.

The NTSB report is short. Just read it. From my casual look, it seems like a hand flying captain became distracted in the clouds/bumps to look at the EICAS and/or trouble shoot after a botched cleanup after T/O. I don’t know 777 procedures. Lots of possible contributing factors on how/why that could have happened but no CVR and conflicting pilot accounts.

my big wonder was why level off in an overspeed?

We don't do individual policy here...contrary to what some think. I think you mean a technique that you brief and coordinate with other crew. Even as the Captain, it would be more of a request than a directive. The alternative is effective VVM.

They were over 16 degrees nose down descending at about 150 feet per second at one point. The pullout was 2.66 G’s at the peak with flaps extended. The 777 is a tough airplane!

14:50:51– Vertical speed and pitch attitude continued a negative downward trend to reach a maximum of -8,536 feet per minute and -16.74 degrees respectively while at 1,386 feet (radio altitude)

https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket/Documen...%20UAL-Rel.pdf

15 DOWN! I had not heard that. Thank God for EGPWS. Thanks for the info.

That puts it at less than 10 seconds from impact at that rate...

This thread is a genius psyop, took all the attention off the crunched 76 thread.

Almost 3 hull losses in as many years. Been a rough couple of years for UAL. Plus the Airbus that is still down from the tail strike.