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The company can currently force an entire class into Guam. Nifty place to visit but that would be a dealbreaker for many new hires. Unfilled NB CA slot, after 350/100 is the firstest of first world problems.
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If a new hire is forced into a capt slot that they dont want, all they have to do is a "fail" a training event. Whatever the written test is called, procedures validation, etc. One failure will send him or her back to the right seat.
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Originally Posted by GolferNJ
(Post 3694304)
18 MEC members and I would guess 90% of the pilot group don't see this as a concession.
I agree it’s a pass water under the bridge |
Originally Posted by worstpilotever
(Post 3694352)
If a new hire is forced into a capt slot that they dont want, all they have to do is a "fail" a training event. Whatever the written test is called, procedures validation, etc. One failure will send him or her back to the right seat.
there will be plenty of volunteers don’t listen to them and It will attract many from other airlines to come over |
Originally Posted by worstpilotever
(Post 3694352)
If a new hire is forced into a capt slot that they dont want, all they have to do is a "fail" a training event. Whatever the written test is called, procedures validation, etc. One failure will send him or her back to the right seat.
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Originally Posted by GolferNJ
(Post 3694304)
18 MEC members and I would guess 90% of the pilot group don't see this as a concession.
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Originally Posted by Doctor Block
(Post 3694338)
It’s a concession. Right now, everyone can decide when to bid CA. Why would we let the company assign it to someone that doesn’t choose it?
Are people so scared that others will vote no, that you have to pretend this isn’t a concession? Those saying it takes a number of steps first, or that it won’t be implemented til later, or volunteers will reduce the number of forced upgrades, are ignoring the fact that it’s a concession. TUMI pitch men were telling us “we don’t think the company will do that” or “…very often” with the concessions in that POS. Let’s not do that. This is not a concession. Every interviewee will be asked if they're willing to accept a Captain assignment under the UPA terms. I hope they're truthful when they answer. |
Originally Posted by 744ButtonPusher
(Post 3694494)
don’t even have to fail, can pass and still get short cycled which would make one ineligible.
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Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon
(Post 3694632)
That’s threading a needle you don’t want to thread imo.
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If the “forced upgrade” existed on the last contact we would not have LAS, MCO and IAH (maybe DEN/ORD) would be half the size today. For many that would be a concession.
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