What does the forfeit of hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of sick time from every pilot get then? The company considers sick time to have a monetary value and 95hr+ drop no pay for sick calls scheme is ALPA endorsed wage theft.

1 Every pilot? I would suggest it's a minority of pilots. I don't know average SL balance at retirement, but I'd wager the average is below 100hrs.
2 You're changing the discussion.
3 With LTD kicking in at 60 days with the new TA, one can lower their emergency LTD sick bank down to 184 hrs (95hrs x 2 minus 6hrs accrued for one month). I've always tried to have 275hrs (95x3 minus 5x2) as my target sick bank.
4 We are now able to use half of our annual SL for kin care no matter where you're based.
5 We all know that we won't get anything for unused SL when we retire. If one chooses not to use SL when they should (flying sick), that's on them.

The union doesn’t view sick leave as a “screw your fellow pilots” bank, which is what some pilots, unfortunately, use it for. They view it as an insurance policy. If you can make it through your career without a devastating injury or illness, consider yourself lucky/blessed.

Pro and Con letters are out.

Why did only the IAH reps and the DEN Fo rep sign the con letter? Didn’t GUM vote no too?

🤣🤣🤣 Nailed it!

If it's not a concession, then why did the MEC Chair just say in the Town Hall that this single issue was argued from February all the way to the last meeting in July? Kirby has all but said unfilled EWR CA vacancies were the reason he opened MCO. That's a powerful "tool" that we are giving up - so it's a concession.

How would you feel if someone told YOU that "anyone voting YES for this thing has lost their damn mind?" A little professionalism please.

what’s your bet on what bases shrink as a result of this forced captain provision? IAH seems to be on that list.

Maybe... but by giving up forced upgrades it hamstrings us on the next contract. So, they gave a bunch of "gives" this time in order to "get" forced upgrades playing the long game that the next contract they won't be forced into so many gives.

Who knows, with no forced upgrades maybe PHX and SEA or ??? would open up and drastically change the lives of hundreds of pilots.

If Kirby's growth projection is correct, then not likely. If it's incorrect then they may certainly let it shrink through attrition or expensive displacements. Who knows.