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ugleeual 09-12-2023 02:58 PM

They should have added Unicorns as a demand… would have had more respect.

JoePatroni 09-12-2023 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by ugleeual (Post 3696088)
They should have added Unicorns as a demand… would have had more respect.

That would added a page 41, they wanted to be sure no one lost interest so they kept it to forty pages.

Ace66 09-12-2023 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by buzzer (Post 3695995)
My opinion. If there is one item in the TA you feel is completely not acceptable then voting no for that reason is 100% acceptable. I would not in good conscience vote yes if I feel very strongly that something isn't acceptable. Note not acceptable vs I just don't like it or it sucks. I also don't fear going back to the table and don't think we should (if that's the case) as that's a losing strategy in general. The pilot group (broad brush paint stroke) at every TA I've been through gets this fear of saying no...every time. Probably a combination of things but it's there. It's negotiation. Of course one needs to weigh all things including the time/value of money. The voters who don't read the TA, or any of the supporting material/shows/vids bother me more than someone who votes no for one item they feel strongly about. The forum is great to ferret out details and possible flaws. Not so great to read posts that simply try to bash others for having differing opinions.

The same can be said of "one issue yes voters" like the guys who see dollar signs over the retro.

I don't think it's a very good TA, less than Delta's, but might have voted yes if it wasn't for the forced upgrades. That's a single BS issue that I can't agree to.

Pilot4000 09-12-2023 03:48 PM

Of course it’s IAH that is all up in arms about the libtard 5G mind control vax.

Grumble 09-12-2023 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by Nordhavn (Post 3695842)
It seems like a huge deal to me but I don't like taking vaccines that were cooked up in 6 months and were approved hastily. I think most pilots are *****s that will just look at the money and not care too much about the operational impact BS language you got.

Just as a point of order…. They were never approved

Longhornmaniac8 09-12-2023 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 3696124)
Just as a point of order…. They were never approved

:confused:

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/pres...vid-19-vaccine

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/pres...vid-19-vaccine

This stuff takes like 5 seconds to Google, is it really that hard to not just blatantly lie?

Nordhavn 09-12-2023 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 3696124)
Just as a point of order…. They were never approved

Yes sir. I was speaking of approved by the FAA which is so laughable. You cannot even take a Zyrtec and fly but all you need is 2 days after your clot shot and you are good to go. Pfizer/Biontech was finally granted approval here in the USA but you cannot get it. You are still receiving The EUA version which works great for them because you sign your life away upon injection. The question is, will the UAL pilot group stand up and say "no more shots"? Let's hope so.

Agent62 09-12-2023 05:45 PM

About two more years until we're all dead from getting the vaccine in 2021 anyways. I say we take the money and run.

Right, right?

hummingbear 09-12-2023 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by Agent62 (Post 3696163)
About two more years until we're all dead from getting the vaccine in 2021 anyways. I say we take the money and run.

Right, right?

Haha! Okay, that’s an artful redirect.

ThumbsUp 09-12-2023 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by Nordhavn (Post 3696141)
Yes sir. I was speaking of approved by the FAA which is so laughable. You cannot even take a Zyrtec and fly but all you need is 2 days after your clot shot and you are good to go. Pfizer/Biontech was finally granted approval here in the USA but you cannot get it. You are still receiving The EUA version which works great for them because you sign your life away upon injection. The question is, will the UAL pilot group stand up and say "no more shots"? Let's hope so.

You need to read something since 2021. You couldn’t get the original ones if you wanted to as they are no longer available in the US. It’s good to see how contract negotiations really polish that tin, though.


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