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hummingbear 09-16-2023 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by JoePatroni (Post 3697749)
If you use one pair strictly for mall walking they last a lot longer.

“This conversation has been relocated to the Age 67 thread”

ReadOnly7 09-16-2023 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by Bestglide (Post 3697197)
It’s really informative that you’re a science believing atheist, but do you have to be such a condescending #@ck to those on here that aren’t? Just who held everyone’s livelihood hostage with a mandatory vaccine that was under emergency use and we were the only major to do it?

not really an atheist, and I’m not for the vaccine, and no….I don’t have to be a jerk when somebody has PERSONAL beliefs, but I’ll be a massive condescending ********* to people who try to shove it down others’ throats. This hag needs to hush.

vroll1800 09-16-2023 09:59 PM


Originally Posted by Sniper66 (Post 3697278)
very good assessment
I agree
this TA will pass with 78% in favour and 22% against vote my best educated guess

Given APC history of ratification "Yes" votes being ~ 15% - 20% higher than poll "Yes" votes, the Sniper probably hit a bullseye. ;)

Pilot4000 09-17-2023 02:24 AM

Help me figure this out.

If you're on reserve, and you don't bid for one of the "new" reserve categories, you'll be on what is now termed "traditional reserve". Like with the present reserve, it defaults to long call. The callout times are either 16 or 18 hours. You're required to check your schedule between 1800 and 2359 on your last day off.

So if I check the schedule at 2359, the earliest I could be required to report would be 1559, right?

JTwift 09-17-2023 04:41 AM


Originally Posted by Pilot4000 (Post 3698029)
Help me figure this out.

If you're on reserve, and you don't bid for one of the "new" reserve categories, you'll be on what is now termed "traditional reserve". Like with the present reserve, it defaults to long call. The callout times are either 16 or 18 hours. You're required to check your schedule between 1800 and 2359 on your last day off.

So if I check the schedule at 2359, the earliest I could be required to report would be 1559, right?

20-k-7

not sure where you’re seeing about checking your schedule on your last day, though.

if you’re a voluntary early check-in line, then you need to check 1600-1759 day prior.

Pilot4000 09-17-2023 04:54 AM


Originally Posted by JTwift (Post 3698043)
20-k-7

not sure where you’re seeing about checking your schedule on your last day, though.

if you’re a voluntary early check-in line, then you need to check 1600-1759 day prior.

So I am required to answer my phone after 1400 on my last day off? Doesn't sound like much of a day off.

TOGALOCK 09-17-2023 05:25 AM


Originally Posted by Pilot4000 (Post 3698047)
So I am required to answer my phone after 1400 on my last day off? Doesn't sound like much of a day off.

I’d imagine there will have to be some clarifying language from the union at some point since this section is about as clear as mud.

The TA references “legal rest starting at 0000” in the example given for an 11am show. My guess would be that you’re not required to answer your phone, but will still be required to check your schedule at some point prior to 2359. As long as the event was placed on your schedule at least 18 hours prior to show time, it is legal. If you choose not to receive text notifications for schedule modifications or not check your schedule until 2359 the night before, that’s on you.

In either case, being required to answer your phone or not, I’d say it’s a step backwards in LDO provisions for reserve.

744ButtonPusher 09-17-2023 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by Pilot4000 (Post 3698029)
Help me figure this out.

If you're on reserve, and you don't bid for one of the "new" reserve categories, you'll be on what is now termed "traditional reserve". Like with the present reserve, it defaults to long call. The callout times are either 16 or 18 hours. You're required to check your schedule between 1800 and 2359 on your last day off.

So if I check the schedule at 2359, the earliest I could be required to report would be 1559, right?

no..

a traditional reserve has no requirement to check their schedule on their last day off with upa23.

however, the call out time is based on on time of assignment, not time of contact.. so lets say they put a trip with a report time of 1000 on your schedule. So long as they put the trip on your schedule by 1600 on your last day off AND call you right at 0000 (start of your longcall) it’s a legal trip assignment.

1600 to 1000 is 18 hrs from assignment
0000 to 1000 is your far 10 hr rest period.

744ButtonPusher 09-17-2023 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by Pilot4000 (Post 3698047)
So I am required to answer my phone after 1400 on my last day off? Doesn't sound like much of a day off.

there is NO requirement to answer your phone on your last day off (even under current book).. and now there is no requirement to check your schedule either (current book you have to check between 1800 and 2359) … unless you Volunteer to be an early-check.

0000 on your first day is the earliest you have to answer or be aware of anything on your schedule ; however there are gotchas.., they may have assigned you a 1000 report time for a trip and call you at 0000 to notify you and you might be be able to commute in time.(see above examples) … but it’s your choice to not check your schedule or answer your phone on your last day off.


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