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Karloffstall 09-12-2023 06:04 PM

Not this time lol. In the very unlikely event that this ta doesn’t pass, I highly doubt the negotiating committee will waste a modicum of effort on editing the medical freedom portion as only a tiny percentage of the entire group is bent out of shape about it

Originally Posted by Nordhavn (Post 3696141)
Yes sir. I was speaking of approved by the FAA which is so laughable. You cannot even take a Zyrtec and fly but all you need is 2 days after your clot shot and you are good to go. Pfizer/Biontech was finally granted approval here in the USA but you cannot get it. You are still receiving The EUA version which works great for them because you sign your life away upon injection. The question is, will the UAL pilot group stand up and say "no more shots"? Let's hope so.


Nordhavn 09-12-2023 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3696166)
You need to read something since 2021. You couldn’t get the original ones if you wanted to as they are no longer available in the US. It’s good to see how contract negotiations really polish that tin, though.

That is completely incorrect. By all means though, roll up your sleeve for another round of safe and effective shots coming to you in 3 short days. Something tells me you will not.

ThumbsUp 09-12-2023 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by Nordhavn (Post 3696178)
That is completely incorrect. By all means though, roll up your sleeve for another round of safe and effective shots coming to you in 3 short days. Something tells me you will not.


I think the tin is poisoning your brain.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...nited%20States

As of April 18, 2023, the original Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines are no longer authorized for use by the FDA in the United States”

Longhornmaniac8 09-12-2023 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3696188)
I think the tin is poisoning your brain.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...nited%20States

As of April 18, 2023, the original Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines are no longer authorized for use by the FDA in the United States”

Conspiracy theory inbound in 3...2...1...

Karloffstall 09-12-2023 06:47 PM

Don’t forget the CDC is the enemy to the tin foil hat clan. Only links to obscure non reputable websites that support their narrative are approved sources of information. Lastly, never forget “they’ve done their research” and know far more than doctors and health professionals.


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3696188)
I think the tin is poisoning your brain.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...nited%20States

As of April 18, 2023, the original Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines are no longer authorized for use by the FDA in the United States”


Nordhavn 09-12-2023 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3696188)
I think the tin is poisoning your brain.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...nited%20States

As of April 18, 2023, the original Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines are no longer authorized for use by the FDA in the United States”

By all means keep following FDA guidelines. FDA is about as compromised as the FBI.

ClearCreek 09-12-2023 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by Nordhavn (Post 3696052)
One would hope that their fellow man would have the balls to say no to experimental medicine that causes heart damage, strokes, and blood clotting, not to mention pages of other issues. We wouldn't need some **** ant labor organization to be our spine. You people that willingly injected yourselves for 15 hours of pay really make poor decisions and then had the audacity to call us Grandma killers for not doing our civic duty. What a bunch of retards.

Trump did say he loves the uneducated. Does that give you the warm fuzzies?

JTwift 09-14-2023 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3696188)
I think the tin is poisoning your brain.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...nited%20States

As of April 18, 2023, the original Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines are no longer authorized for use by the FDA in the United States”

not that it’s entirely relevant to contract discussions, but the reason the original vaccines are no longer authorized is to simplify the vaccination schedule because almost everyone has antibodies to the original Covid variant (either through immunization or infection). They want people to get the updated versions and not use the ones that are geared toward the old variants.

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-authorizes-changes-simplify-use-bivalent-mrna-covid-19-vaccines



https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-covid-vaccine-shift-monovalent-bivalent-447335268816

ThumbsUp 09-14-2023 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by JTwift (Post 3696824)
not that it’s entirely relevant to contract discussions, but the reason the original vaccines are no longer authorized is to simplify the vaccination schedule because almost everyone has antibodies to the original Covid variant (either through immunization or infection). They want people to get the updated versions and not use the ones that are geared toward the old variants.

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-authorizes-changes-simplify-use-bivalent-mrna-covid-19-vaccines



https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-covid-vaccine-shift-monovalent-bivalent-447335268816

yep. Filler

three1five 09-14-2023 12:21 PM

I’ve always been pro vaccine until personally experiencing adverse effects from the Covid vaccine. Now I am much more cautious, and am also much less inclined to call other cautious people/pilots uneducated just because they are cautious.

I am grateful to ALPA for negotiating the medical freedoms language.


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