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ReadOnly7 09-11-2023 01:54 PM

One issue voters
 
Is the entire IAH council that afraid of LC and SW that they have to pretend to have a list of concerns….but really it’s all about “medical freedom”?
*edit - I’m 100% AGAINST forced vax….and masking makes me think you’re not that bright…..but is THIS the hill so many people are willing to die on???

JoePatroni 09-11-2023 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by ReadOnly7 (Post 3695707)
Is the entire IAH council that afraid of LC and SW that they have to pretend to have a list of concerns….but really it’s all about “medical freedom”?

Sad isn’t it?

Nordhavn 09-12-2023 05:02 AM


Originally Posted by ReadOnly7 (Post 3695707)
Is the entire IAH council that afraid of LC and SW that they have to pretend to have a list of concerns….but really it’s all about “medical freedom”?
*edit - I’m 100% AGAINST forced vax….and masking makes me think you’re not that bright…..but is THIS the hill so many people are willing to die on???

It seems like a huge deal to me but I don't like taking vaccines that were cooked up in 6 months and were approved hastily. I think most pilots are *****s that will just look at the money and not care too much about the operational impact BS language you got.

DownSideUp 09-12-2023 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by ReadOnly7 (Post 3695707)
Is the entire IAH council that afraid of LC and SW that they have to pretend to have a list of concerns….but really it’s all about “medical freedom”?
*edit - I’m 100% AGAINST forced vax….and masking makes me think you’re not that bright…..but is THIS the hill so many people are willing to die on???

No, it’s absolutely NOT the hill you want to die on.

I read the LC171 memo and thought exactly the same thing. Sure, medical freedom is a biggie, but you cannot possibly look at the rest of the TA and NOT see that this is a very good deal.

Single issue voters are usually very narrow minded and focused on themselves. My opinion is this is probably the case in LC171 as well.

Viperstick 09-12-2023 10:16 AM

With Pandemic 2.0 just getting started, it's funny that so many are willing to accept an exceptionally poorly worded section, purportedly to guarantee medical freedom, because they want to finally get their retro.

Joseph de Maistre said "In a democracy people get the leaders they deserve." Choose wisely & think through the ramifications. I suspect this will come back to haunt us sometime very soon.

Sniper66 09-12-2023 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by JoePatroni (Post 3695708)
Sad isn’t it?


those two are out of touch
I agree

JurgenKlopp 09-12-2023 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by Viperstick (Post 3695956)
With Pandemic 2.0 just getting started, it's funny that so many are willing to accept an exceptionally poorly worded section, purportedly to guarantee medical freedom, because they want to finally get their retro.

Joseph de Maistre said "In a democracy people get the leaders they deserve." Choose wisely & think through the ramifications. I suspect this will come back to haunt us sometime very soon.

Yep voting yes feels even better when I read drivel like 👆

desertFlyer2015 09-12-2023 11:10 AM

I hate to break it to them, it doesn’t matter what the UPA says. If the feds make it a law or the FAA says it’s required to have a medical, the UPA isn’t going to save you.

PropPiedmont 09-12-2023 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by desertFlyer2015 (Post 3695988)
I hate to break it to them, it doesn’t matter what the UPA says. If the feds make it a law or the FAA says it’s required to have a medical, the UPA isn’t going to save you.

The exact definition of one of the five ‘Hazardous Attitudes.’

buzzer 09-12-2023 11:27 AM

My opinion. If there is one item in the TA you feel is completely not acceptable then voting no for that reason is 100% acceptable. I would not in good conscience vote yes if I feel very strongly that something isn't acceptable. Note not acceptable vs I just don't like it or it sucks. I also don't fear going back to the table and don't think we should (if that's the case) as that's a losing strategy in general. The pilot group (broad brush paint stroke) at every TA I've been through gets this fear of saying no...every time. Probably a combination of things but it's there. It's negotiation. Of course one needs to weigh all things including the time/value of money. The voters who don't read the TA, or any of the supporting material/shows/vids bother me more than someone who votes no for one item they feel strongly about. The forum is great to ferret out details and possible flaws. Not so great to read posts that simply try to bash others for having differing opinions.


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