Forced Upgrade for New Hires ?
10-26-2023 | 08:06 PM
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I could give a sheet where newbs are placed. They get our bidding leftovers. Bout to get a buck twenty in retro pay, we’re making $342 per hr to fly a guppy, and we’re getting a vastly improved reserve system. $10B baby. That’s why it passed by 82%. And if ya voted no? Tough sheet, go pee up a rope. AhhHaHa. It’s still your contract. G’day
10-26-2023 | 08:13 PM
#132
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I like the 95hr no abuse of sick leave language
I like our sick leave balance system. Got to earn it, before you can abuse it.
and of course our industry leading 6 weeks of vacation at 25 years…. Don’t look for that at Delta. No sir.
Edit: btw, with 6 weeks vacation and a big O’ sick leave balance accumulated over a couple decades, this job is like a really high paying part time gig. 😉
I like our sick leave balance system. Got to earn it, before you can abuse it.
and of course our industry leading 6 weeks of vacation at 25 years…. Don’t look for that at Delta. No sir.
Edit: btw, with 6 weeks vacation and a big O’ sick leave balance accumulated over a couple decades, this job is like a really high paying part time gig. 😉
10-26-2023 | 08:30 PM
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10-26-2023 | 09:36 PM
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I could give a sheet where newbs are placed. They get our bidding leftovers. Bout to get a buck twenty in retro pay, we’re making $342 per hr to fly a guppy, and we’re getting a vastly improved reserve system. $10B baby. That’s why it passed by 82%. And if ya voted no? Tough sheet, go pee up a rope. AhhHaHa. It’s still your contract. G’day
10-30-2023 | 07:57 PM
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There wouldn’t be a contract without the forced upgrades. At least not until we went through the RLA arbitration process, possibly for another couple years before being released to self help. Not saying we shouldn’t have gone down that road, only that Kirby said no deal without the forced upgrades.
And I don't think arbitration would have taken a couple of years. We have shiny new planes delivering without captains to fly them. Do you have any idea what it costs to park those (or the older NG's it's replacing)? Our contract was blocking Kirby from his Legacy....it would not have taken long....
10-31-2023 | 02:37 AM
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I've heard two different stories from MEC members on forced upgrades and that isn't one of them.
And I don't think arbitration would have taken a couple of years. We have shiny new planes delivering without captains to fly them. Do you have any idea what it costs to park those (or the older NG's it's replacing)? Our contract was blocking Kirby from his Legacy....it would not have taken long....
And I don't think arbitration would have taken a couple of years. We have shiny new planes delivering without captains to fly them. Do you have any idea what it costs to park those (or the older NG's it's replacing)? Our contract was blocking Kirby from his Legacy....it would not have taken long....
10-31-2023 | 09:05 AM
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Ironically the ones that due get it will likely have a better first 9 months than the IAH folks as far as movement goes (especially the EWR and SFO ones) as I think they finally had some Captains take some of those bids on the last vacancy, so they can start bumping those bases back up in size on the FO side as well
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