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08-10-2024 | 03:59 PM
#51
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08-10-2024 | 04:43 PM
#52
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They'll never change. Back in the day CAL had an LCL (before they figured out that they could just convert everyone to SC before the month even started) and they always assigned the long call pilots first because they knew that one cloud in eastern PA would cause EWR to melt. In that case, the LCLs were of no use to the crisis recovery mode.
As for VEC, I guess guys will have to report in on whether the pay bump was worth it.
08-10-2024 | 05:26 PM
#53
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With the everything shaking out how it is, I don't see guys taking LCL very often after these first few trial months. It offers no pay advantage and if you end up working 18 days a month, that's not a great deal at all.
As for VEC, I guess guys will have to report in on whether the pay bump was worth it.
As for VEC, I guess guys will have to report in on whether the pay bump was worth it.
08-10-2024 | 05:33 PM
#54
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LCL ranges anywhere from 1 to 34, depending on BES. The contract has the formula for the number.
08-11-2024 | 12:58 AM
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If that’s the case, I would just bid LCL to have Forest crack at the trips
08-11-2024 | 02:51 AM
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similar story here. The “who gets called first” hierarchy kinda sucks.
I’m just always amazed at how many trips are in open time, how deep red the pool display is, and how there are apparently no more captain spots to be had in the base.
at this point, just give everyone a line and staff trips with premium pay. Flying 4 on, 2 off (throw in 3 off here and there), especially as a commuter, is a quick path to burnout.
final point: I know commuting is a choice, but have any other commuters found that it has been excruciatingly difficult the past 3-4 months? I’m not even talking summer loads. It seems like 90% of the flights are massively delayed or straight up canceled. And this is other airlines, too. I don’t ever remember it being this bad. I think I’ve had one on-time commute in the past three months.
I’m just always amazed at how many trips are in open time, how deep red the pool display is, and how there are apparently no more captain spots to be had in the base.
at this point, just give everyone a line and staff trips with premium pay. Flying 4 on, 2 off (throw in 3 off here and there), especially as a commuter, is a quick path to burnout.
final point: I know commuting is a choice, but have any other commuters found that it has been excruciatingly difficult the past 3-4 months? I’m not even talking summer loads. It seems like 90% of the flights are massively delayed or straight up canceled. And this is other airlines, too. I don’t ever remember it being this bad. I think I’ve had one on-time commute in the past three months.
08-11-2024 | 02:59 AM
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With the everything shaking out how it is, I don't see guys taking LCL very often after these first few trial months. It offers no pay advantage and if you end up working 18 days a month, that's not a great deal at all.
As for VEC, I guess guys will have to report in on whether the pay bump was worth it.
As for VEC, I guess guys will have to report in on whether the pay bump was worth it.
I know LCL is long call line, and I assume TRV is traditional reserve line and SC= short call
08-11-2024 | 05:08 AM
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From the sounds and looks of my BES and the allocation of VECs and LCLs, looks like I might have a good chance at a LCL… Seems like all of the VECs were allocated…
I say this as I drove up half-way to base to position myself on the last day of reserve to sit SC….
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