most of the dissenters have actually been mil peeps and sorry, not sorry .. still feel that we shouldn’t get PS on mil leave.,

We already get 401k contributions while at the same time building a mil retirement and benefits, now you want more but this time you want to take it from your fellow pilots .. Gmafb

 

The hate on the UAL side for the DL guys getting PS/401k based on you being credited the average value of a line in your category when you left for mil leave blows my mind.

I was involuntary recalled and took a 50% pay cut from being a 767 FO. It at least helped retirement, although being at 50% of expected income for 18 months hurt.

But hey I was just in Afghanistan, Syria and Iraq doing counter One Way UAS stuff. Not like I was in a bad or dangerous spot. Denver layovers are worse.

United Guys, your stick up your keester is worse than what you accused us of having.

 

100%
Thank you for YOUR service….and integrity..,.and absence of entitlement.

 

Before I respond, can you give me a list of everything you want in exchange for your volunteer service? Just the things you want from United will do...I don't want to be distracted.

 

and that’s what YOU signed up for just like the rest of us. You signed up to be recalled, you signed up to put yourself in harms way.. you are not owed anything special for that other than a thank you from grateful nation and a pension if you did it for long enough . We all knew when we joined what the price was but we didn’t do it so we could be “owed” something down road except what we already knew when joined. If you did, then you joined for the absolute wrong reasons and I have zero sympathy for you.

 

We at DAL get it because our 401k is pensionable, that's it. I'm certain that if Delta was forced to do it, they would not.



Not everyone who is on MLOA, is doing the 5 year USERRA thing, or "abusing" MLOA. I've lost out on LOTS of things due to going on orders for deployments (pretty much the only long term MLOA I ever took). I wasn't able to both bid for vacation (I got the scraps left over) AND have my full vacation allotment for eight of my 10 years at DAL. Many of those years the leftovers were the often sought after Feb/Mar vacations lol. Even the year after I retired, I didn't get my full allotment of vacation due to a deployment the year prior. At Delta if you are docked just one day of vacation (you don't have a full 7 days), you don't get to bid that week as a separate vacation week, it just gets tagged on to one of your other vacations. Catch is, both weeks have to be available for you to get that vacation, so it was easy to get screwed out of a good week due to this crap.

Either way, it's the cost of doing business for mil guys (I'm retired now), just as paying mil guys PS is the cost of doing business for Delta. I believe that people on long term disability should get PS as well. A seniority list pilot is a seniority list pilot.

 

One flaw… it Doesn’t cost Delta other than the 17% DC on said .,it cost fellow pilots. The PS pie doesn’t get bigger from including mil pilot but the size of the slices get smaller. Please educate yourself before you post.


also PS pensionable for UA as well.

 

Does the 401k they pay on the PS come from the PS pool? Please educate yourself before you post.

 

still not required to be done under USERRA (paying PS on mil leave that is) so it looks like Delta does in fact do it out of the kindness of their hearts. If it was required UA would have to do it too and they don’t.

 

That could be, but this was how it was explained to us by the company during indoc. Maybe their lawyers disagree. Based on the way many were treated on MLOA, I find it hard to believe that they'd pay anything they didn't have to. If UAL isn't doing it, then you're safe, those dang MLOA thieves won't be stealing your money anytime soon lol.