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Old 02-27-2025 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Sacsnapper
I'm curious how the numbers compare between more WB'sat UAL vs 2 CA's on flights over 12 hours at DAL.

UAL the 777/787 has 1479 CA's & 2693 FO's

(Based off the min-max bulliten for the vacancy bid in early FEB, I'm not sure if that includes pilots on LTD)

You got me wondering so here is what I found from the Mar25 Category list. It doesn't include anyone on MLOA/LTD/other leaves.

330/350 CA = 1,365
330/350 FO = 2,058

Add in the 764 (relatively small categories) which are all at the top rate. Just a tough comparison since you guys mix the 764 into the 75/763 category.

Total WB CA = 1,551
Total WB FO = 2,403

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Old 02-27-2025 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
You got me wondering so here is what I found from the Mar25 Category list. It doesn't include anyone on MLOA/LTD/other leaves.

330/350 CA = 1,365
330/350 FO = 2,058

Add in the 764 (relatively small categories) which are all at the top rate. Just a tough comparison since you guys mix the 764 into the 7ER category.

Total WB Capt = 1,551
Total WB FO = 2,403
7ER category? Huh? 737-900ER? 777-300ER? You know this is the United forum?
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Old 02-27-2025 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by N6279P
7ER category? Huh? 737-900ER? 777-300ER? You know this is the United forum?

I'll update the nomenclature for ya, we certainly have some weird labels on things. Like United guys calling the 737 the guppie. The 764 is also labeled 765 on everything lol.
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Old 02-27-2025 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by N6279P
7ER category? Huh? 737-900ER? 777-300ER? You know this is the United forum?
You know someone asked the question and so he answered the Delta portion of the equation(and a moderator). I'm pretty certain he knows.

Now who is being "pretty effing obnixious" (as a previous poster said)?
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Old 02-27-2025 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
330/350 CA = 1,365
330/350 FO = 2,058
777/787 CA = 1,576
777/787 FO = 2,772

That's as of 1/28/25. 764s aren't broken out from the 756 fleet, but DAL has 21 764s & UAL has 16.

https://ual.alpa.org/Portals/90/Documents/committees/ssc/2025/%20ssc-report-2025-02.pdf p. 36

Anybody at Delta know the details of the story about Boeing ****ing off CEO Richard Anderson so much that Airbus became Delta's preferred supplier?

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Old 02-27-2025 | 08:54 AM
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How many delta flights are over 12 hours?
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Old 02-27-2025 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Race Bannon

IOW what are your credentials to back up your barbs?

Reading this thread.
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Old 02-28-2025 | 04:30 AM
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777/787 CA = 1,576/172 WB = 9.2 CA/WB
777/787 FO = 2,772/172 WB = 16.1 FO/WB
777/787 pilots = 25.3 pilots/WB
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Old 02-28-2025 | 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by jerryleber
777/787 CA = 1,576/172 WB = 9.2 CA/WB
777/787 FO = 2,772/172 WB = 16.1 FO/WB
777/787 pilots = 25.3 pilots/WB
Pretty close, you’d have to factor in how many of those WB are domestic only, which is a 1/1 ratio 🤣
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Old 02-28-2025 | 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by jerryleber
777/787 CA = 1,576
777/787 FO = 2,772

That's as of 1/28/25. 764s aren't broken out from the 756 fleet, but DAL has 21 764s & UAL has 16.

https://ual.alpa.org/Portals/90/Documents/committees/ssc/2025/%20ssc-report-2025-02.pdf p. 36

Anybody at Delta know the details of the story about Boeing ****ing off CEO Richard Anderson so much that Airbus became Delta's preferred supplier?
Boeing was very confident Delta was going to order the 787 and felt it was obviously a better product than the A330-900. United would however not make space for Delta on the schedule to get the aircraft in the time frame requested. They instead offered to deliver 777-300's on a lease until the 787-900's would show up. Delta requested 777-200LR's instead as well as additional 767-400's. Boeing said no to both stating they would not build additional passenger 767's and would no longer build the 777-200. Delta went with Airbus.
United also had discussions about additional 767's and Boeing said no as well in the 2016 time frame.

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