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02-23-2025 | 10:10 AM
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02-23-2025 | 10:28 AM
#152
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Yes, because UA will always have the most WB’s just like they have had since the dawn of the airline world and will grow to be 30,000 pilots by 2030 doing Boom Jet turns by the day.. /s
Contracts, brands, fleets, pilot groups, ebb and flow; especially when the future in this industry is 40 years for many pilots. Will UA continue to have the (marginally) largest WB fleet in 2040+ or will that go to DL, AA, or will we all be flying for one big monopolized carrier? What I know is that you have absolutely no idea.
Therefore, I very much confidently disagree with you.
Contracts, brands, fleets, pilot groups, ebb and flow; especially when the future in this industry is 40 years for many pilots. Will UA continue to have the (marginally) largest WB fleet in 2040+ or will that go to DL, AA, or will we all be flying for one big monopolized carrier? What I know is that you have absolutely no idea.
Therefore, I very much confidently disagree with you.
02-23-2025 | 01:06 PM
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02-26-2025 | 03:22 PM
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02-26-2025 | 08:03 PM
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This was my point to begin with. more aircraft at the highest payscale. This translates to more opportunities to be at the highest pay scale. United appears to staff approx 24 pilots per 777/787. with 57 more planes in the top scale, that means about 1300 more pilots at the top payscale. (leaving out the 767-400 for simplicty.)
02-26-2025 | 09:30 PM
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This was my point to begin with. more aircraft at the highest payscale. This translates to more opportunities to be at the highest pay scale. United appears to staff approx 24 pilots per 777/787. with 57 more planes in the top scale, that means about 1300 more pilots at the top payscale. (leaving out the 767-400 for simplicty.)
What I've never understood at DL is in the 7ER category we pay the 763, 763ER, 752 and 753 all the same rate. Meanwhile in the 320 category, I had a diff pay rate for the 319/20, 321 and 321Neo
321 Neo pays the same as a 767-300ER but if you're not in a NEO, it pays a good chunk less.
Why one fleet has 3 pay rates over 4 airframes, and the other has 1 for 3 airframes and used to be 4/5, (no more non ER 763 or 762s) has never made sense to me.
02-27-2025 | 02:46 AM
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United flies all 76 variants in one category, but pays the 764 like a "pure" WB right?
What I've never understood at DL is in the 7ER category we pay the 763, 763ER, 752 and 753 all the same rate. Meanwhile in the 320 category, I had a diff pay rate for the 319/20, 321 and 321Neo
321 Neo pays the same as a 767-300ER but if you're not in a NEO, it pays a good chunk less.
Why one fleet has 3 pay rates over 4 airframes, and the other has 1 for 3 airframes and used to be 4/5, (no more non ER 763 or 762s) has never made sense to me.
What I've never understood at DL is in the 7ER category we pay the 763, 763ER, 752 and 753 all the same rate. Meanwhile in the 320 category, I had a diff pay rate for the 319/20, 321 and 321Neo
321 Neo pays the same as a 767-300ER but if you're not in a NEO, it pays a good chunk less.
Why one fleet has 3 pay rates over 4 airframes, and the other has 1 for 3 airframes and used to be 4/5, (no more non ER 763 or 762s) has never made sense to me.
02-27-2025 | 02:46 AM
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This was my point to begin with. more aircraft at the highest payscale. This translates to more opportunities to be at the highest pay scale. United appears to staff approx 24 pilots per 777/787. with 57 more planes in the top scale, that means about 1300 more pilots at the top payscale. (leaving out the 767-400 for simplicty.)
