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02-21-2025 | 10:32 AM
#132
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United has somewhere around 50 more aircraft at the highest pay scale than delta does. That is significantly more pilots that are able to earn the highest pay scale over the course of the year. Delta does a lot of their international flying as a codeshare. Delta pilots are not being paid to fly those jets. Atl has one of the lowest fee per pax in the country, Ewr has one of the highest. Since ticket prices are about the same, delta will keep more money on a ticket from Atl to lhr than United will from Ewr to lhr.
Edit: With addition of global scope in 23’ I expect the WB gap to close over the next handful of years. Delta will be forced to grow 1:1 WB’s as all JV’s introduce more flying. The addition of this scope was a huge win that will bring more & more JV flying back to DL pilots
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02-21-2025 | 10:34 AM
#133
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true statement on the premium. I’m a few years in and have only ever gotten one premium trip. When a premium does pop up, there’s a list of 30+ that all want it.
02-21-2025 | 10:37 AM
#134
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First year at DL flew 1 GS a month (1-2 days; nothing longer), and sometimes got calls for more. Not to mention inverse assignments are nice to see too (always paid at 200% & doesn’t count against your GS#1)
02-21-2025 | 10:54 AM
#135
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02-21-2025 | 01:38 PM
#136
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sure, BES and commute play a big role, but the point still stands that it’s purely seniority based, and that’s all. Delta goes by seniority, but spreads it out so everyone gets a chance eventually. UA could see the top person get every premium trip if their schedule allowed it.
02-21-2025 | 03:08 PM
#137
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And most of our defense is currently paid with debt. The taxes you pay are barely paying the interest on our debt, let alone the principal.
02-21-2025 | 04:31 PM
#138
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Joined: Apr 2019
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From: Ready for the overnight
Not you in specific, but i see pilots our complaining, and I cannot roll my eyes any harder into the back of my head.
02-21-2025 | 07:31 PM
#139
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Joined: Apr 2023
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We get paid pretty ridiculous amounts of money to fly the trips we fly. Getting a premium trip in open time, getting bought off of a trip for training, or all of the extension pay we get are all really nice things to recieve every once in a while. If you absolutely HAVE to get premium trips, and base your happiness or budget on that, then you may need to reevaluate your life choices.
Not you in specific, but i see pilots our complaining, and I cannot roll my eyes any harder into the back of my head.
Not you in specific, but i see pilots our complaining, and I cannot roll my eyes any harder into the back of my head.
Most pilots at UAL can be senior in some BES. We all make choices.
02-22-2025 | 06:23 AM
#140
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