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01-29-2025 | 12:04 PM
#81
Slam-Clicka
Joined: Dec 2019
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We at DAL get it because our 401k is pensionable, that's it. I'm certain that if Delta was forced to do it, they would not.
Not everyone who is on MLOA, is doing the 5 year USERRA thing, or "abusing" MLOA. I've lost out on LOTS of things due to going on orders for deployments (pretty much the only long term MLOA I ever took). I wasn't able to both bid for vacation (I got the scraps left over) AND have my full vacation allotment for eight of my 10 years at DAL. Many of those years the leftovers were the often sought after Feb/Mar vacations lol. Even the year after I retired, I didn't get my full allotment of vacation due to a deployment the year prior. At Delta if you are docked just one day of vacation (you don't have a full 7 days), you don't get to bid that week as a separate vacation week, it just gets tagged on to one of your other vacations. Catch is, both weeks have to be available for you to get that vacation, so it was easy to get screwed out of a good week due to this crap.
Either way, it's the cost of doing business for mil guys (I'm retired now), just as paying mil guys PS is the cost of doing business for Delta. I believe that people on long term disability should get PS as well. A seniority list pilot is a seniority list pilot.
Not everyone who is on MLOA, is doing the 5 year USERRA thing, or "abusing" MLOA. I've lost out on LOTS of things due to going on orders for deployments (pretty much the only long term MLOA I ever took). I wasn't able to both bid for vacation (I got the scraps left over) AND have my full vacation allotment for eight of my 10 years at DAL. Many of those years the leftovers were the often sought after Feb/Mar vacations lol. Even the year after I retired, I didn't get my full allotment of vacation due to a deployment the year prior. At Delta if you are docked just one day of vacation (you don't have a full 7 days), you don't get to bid that week as a separate vacation week, it just gets tagged on to one of your other vacations. Catch is, both weeks have to be available for you to get that vacation, so it was easy to get screwed out of a good week due to this crap.
Either way, it's the cost of doing business for mil guys (I'm retired now), just as paying mil guys PS is the cost of doing business for Delta. I believe that people on long term disability should get PS as well. A seniority list pilot is a seniority list pilot.
01-29-2025 | 12:07 PM
#82
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I did not miss out on all that gloriousness, I even got to do lovely airport standby when I was at my regional. I never went on long term MLOA outside of deployments. A couple months of orders every few years was the extent of my MLOA.
01-29-2025 | 01:03 PM
#83
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01-29-2025 | 01:09 PM
#84
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Joined: Nov 2017
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From: NYC 7ERA
01-29-2025 | 01:22 PM
#85
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01-29-2025 | 03:15 PM
#87
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I did not miss that, we just disagree, which is ok. Even as a retired guardsman, I'm perfectly happy splitting the PS pool with those on MLOA just as much as I'm happy to split it with those on long term disability.
01-31-2025 | 08:42 AM
#88
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Everybody pays their dues, just in a different way sometime.
01-31-2025 | 08:48 AM
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From: Guppy Gear Slinger
01-31-2025 | 11:31 AM
#90
Slam-Clicka
Joined: Dec 2019
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and all 121 “dues paying people” missed out on living in a tent or mold filled cube in Iraq/Afgnaistan/undisclosed location, breathing in carcinogens from a burn pit, while eating soupy food over rice, and getting shot at.
Everybody pays their dues, just in a different way sometime.
Everybody pays their dues, just in a different way sometime.
