Parking Planes
03-13-2025 | 02:39 PM
#62
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I agree (on the lack of EICAS). 12 years on it and I never recall having an issue with determining which checklist I had to run if a problem popped up. Probably due to the training course I was required to attend prior to flying it.
03-13-2025 | 02:45 PM
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Hungry? Don't take it so personally. I fly Boeings and have been through 737 school on four different occasions with two different airlines. I fly a Boeing that is more ancient in some ways than the 737s we fly now. I was not aware that Boeing got a reprieve on having to put EICAS on the Max7 and 10. Ham corrected me. Move on.
03-13-2025 | 04:13 PM
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Also, after having flown multiple aircraft with and without EICAS, I don't see what the big deal is. If you have a generator fail on a plane with EICAS you get a tone, a message, and then you run the GEN BUS 1 checklist. In a 737 you get a bright orange light, the 6 pack says ELEC, and after looking up to see the source off light illuminated, you simply run the source off checklist. Neither system is remotely unsafe or difficult to comprehend. What are we going to complain about next? Having to trim the aircraft due to airspeed changes when hand flying?
03-13-2025 | 06:30 PM
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Holy crap dude, I assumed the smiley face would imply a joke.
Also, after having flown multiple aircraft with and without EICAS, I don't see what the big deal is. If you have a generator fail on a plane with EICAS you get a tone, a message, and then you run the GEN BUS 1 checklist. In a 737 you get a bright orange light, the 6 pack says ELEC, and after looking up to see the source off light illuminated, you simply run the source off checklist. Neither system is remotely unsafe or difficult to comprehend. What are we going to complain about next? Having to trim the aircraft due to airspeed changes when hand flying?
Also, after having flown multiple aircraft with and without EICAS, I don't see what the big deal is. If you have a generator fail on a plane with EICAS you get a tone, a message, and then you run the GEN BUS 1 checklist. In a 737 you get a bright orange light, the 6 pack says ELEC, and after looking up to see the source off light illuminated, you simply run the source off checklist. Neither system is remotely unsafe or difficult to comprehend. What are we going to complain about next? Having to trim the aircraft due to airspeed changes when hand flying?
03-13-2025 | 07:19 PM
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Holy crap dude, I assumed the smiley face would imply a joke.
Also, after having flown multiple aircraft with and without EICAS, I don't see what the big deal is. If you have a generator fail on a plane with EICAS you get a tone, a message, and then you run the GEN BUS 1 checklist. In a 737 you get a bright orange light, the 6 pack says ELEC, and after looking up to see the source off light illuminated, you simply run the source off checklist. Neither system is remotely unsafe or difficult to comprehend. What are we going to complain about next? Having to trim the aircraft due to airspeed changes when hand flying?
Also, after having flown multiple aircraft with and without EICAS, I don't see what the big deal is. If you have a generator fail on a plane with EICAS you get a tone, a message, and then you run the GEN BUS 1 checklist. In a 737 you get a bright orange light, the 6 pack says ELEC, and after looking up to see the source off light illuminated, you simply run the source off checklist. Neither system is remotely unsafe or difficult to comprehend. What are we going to complain about next? Having to trim the aircraft due to airspeed changes when hand flying?
03-13-2025 | 07:23 PM
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Holy crap dude, I assumed the smiley face would imply a joke.
Also, after having flown multiple aircraft with and without EICAS, I don't see what the big deal is. If you have a generator fail on a plane with EICAS you get a tone, a message, and then you run the GEN BUS 1 checklist. In a 737 you get a bright orange light, the 6 pack says ELEC, and after looking up to see the source off light illuminated, you simply run the source off checklist. Neither system is remotely unsafe or difficult to comprehend. What are we going to complain about next? Having to trim the aircraft due to airspeed changes when hand flying?
Also, after having flown multiple aircraft with and without EICAS, I don't see what the big deal is. If you have a generator fail on a plane with EICAS you get a tone, a message, and then you run the GEN BUS 1 checklist. In a 737 you get a bright orange light, the 6 pack says ELEC, and after looking up to see the source off light illuminated, you simply run the source off checklist. Neither system is remotely unsafe or difficult to comprehend. What are we going to complain about next? Having to trim the aircraft due to airspeed changes when hand flying?
03-14-2025 | 05:06 AM
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I'm not gonna run through them here but between the reliability of the physical lights themselves to the way you have to find the problem and determine the causal factor, to the risk of missing multiple simultaneous problems, there are an insane number of reasons any basics EICAS system makes more sense than continuing to build new aircraft for the next few decades with a 1960s master recall and press to reset process the 737 has. It would be like mass producing new Chevy Tahoes without shoulder harnesses and airbags. Does everyone die? No. Is it seriously dumb and shortsighted. Yep.
03-14-2025 | 08:11 AM
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Although outdated, I still say that it's safe and not difficult to understand. It's obviously not as easy as EICAS, but still not a big deal. There are definitely nicer airplanes out there, but some people around here equate flying the 737 to digging ditches in the heat of summer. It makes the company money and they pay us a lot of money to do a job....... most of the complaining around here just sounds like first world problems. I guess with the exception of money and schedule, I just don't care. What ever the bean counters purchase that best meets those goals, I'll bid it.
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