That’s an insane number. What does it even mean? Context? 4.7 trillion? A year? Forgive me for being skeptical every time Elon Must just says he’s saved me billions of dollars.

 

Sigh. As I imagined it would go. What difference does it make re your context? I personally don't care if is a day, a month, a year, or in the history of the government. I don't even care if it is but 5$. How can anyone condone making any .gov payments that can't be fact checked(unless possibly black ops projects but even then... )

By the way, can you cite a reference where Musk says he saved you(you personally, Extenda) billions of dollars? I think they have posted your share is around $800 in savings, so far. BTW a saving doesn't mean it goes into a bank, it just means a decrease(hopefully) in deficit spending. It won't be a saving until expenses<revenue.

 

So if the bill was so bad then why did republicans write the bill that way? Why was the border patrol union endorsing the bill? Why did it have enough bipartisan support to pass until Trump threw a fit that this bipartisan bill, written with the best interest of America in mind, would be a "win" for the opposite party and demanded that republicans spike the bill?

 

The bill was terrible. My guess is that it was the best they thought they could get with Dem support. You should go read the bill or a summary. It would have allowed tens of thousands in before any enforcement was started.

Why did Trump spike it? Maybe he knew he could shut the border without it. Seems like he was correct, and Biden could have done it too. I wonder why he didn’t?

 

Here's a possibility: Musk is lying, or he's flat out wrong. He has repeatedly thrown out "We don't know what this is or what it's for" as a lazy excuse to justify his job and to shut down follow up questions. That's exactly what he did when he audited the social security datavase and found 150 year olds in there, and children receiving payments. Of course his team, who lack accounting experience or any knowledge of how the government works, which also includes one self described racist and eugenecist, shouted from the rooftops about how this is clearly fraud, but they never bothered to ask "why". The answer, of course was the way the system handled people who were born prior to the database and the fact it would take millions to fix a glitch that was easily understood, easily worked around, and cost $0. But these genuises claim it's more efficient to spend the $9 million to fix the glitch. The children were getting payments, but that's because they are entitled to that money becuase their parent who qualified for SS died. Anyone who worked in the system could explain it, but of course Musk and DOGE weren't interested in getting answers, they wanted headlines. It's also why they have been caught claiming that contracts that have already been fully paid out have been "cancelled", and counting it as saved when all the money was spent, and even double or triple counting "savings".

 

Exactly - approved by everyone. Suss only "knows" what's been brainwashed into him.

 

As has been shown, that border bill was pretty convoluted. On one hand it could allow 5,000 a day in before hitting stop gap measures to curtail it.(actually 8750? on single days) I think controlling/hearing Trump's 250 asylum claims a day(down 95%) is fairly easy to process and doesn't provide the beacon of "open border" that that bill would have. When I saw what was in the bill, I wrote my congressman and said "hell no" that ain't gonna float.

To the casual observer, and those polled, the Trump way was seems to have been superior.

My questions for you are, why did it take 15,000,000 illegals before Biden decided to do something/anything? How is that even defensible? How could that be even close to, "The border is secure"? Where was the border czar and how many trips to the border did she make? Why didn't MSM even cover it?

Don't worry, all rhetorical questions

 

This is the correct answer. The $5T number posted above is so massive that the claim is obviously prima facie ridiculous. $5T is roughly 80% of the entire federal government's annual spending. You're telling me that 80% of the entire budget is being fradulently misallocated and no one in the entire federal government has ever noticed or cared before? Occam's razor says the more likely answer is that the claim itself is misleading/embellished/BS.

 

If you would have watched the interview you might have your answer. The SSN weren't logged as deceased. Therefore scammers could use tht SSN for nefarious reasons. 40% of the calls the SS receive appears to be fraudlent/fishing.(I would think if that number was far off, thousands of SS reps would be screaming to high heavens in the media which I haven't seen)(there will always be the few disgruntled with an axe to grind, which I haven't seen but I wasn't looking for, but are no doubt out there)

It's a 38 minute video/interview on youtube. Far less time that what I imagine you have spent here today. I have even seen left leaning people write/say they found it informative. Not surprisingly, I haven't seen any far left that endorse it(most refuse to even watch it)

 

Nobody (not even Doge) has said it was fraudelenty spent. They said they just can't track it to verify it. They, and the bill, would like to at least get some proper accounting of the expenditures which they are currently unable to do for $4.7T. As it is now, they are unmarked, untraceable, unlabeled and unauditable. Do you think that is a good thing?