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Old 03-31-2025 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 89Pistons

As far as the free speach part, Musk has voiced his desire to shut down VOA Voice of America. VOA has been around for more than 80 years and is unbiased, even though Musk claims that they aren't. Musk also went after the Center for Countering Digital Hate, saying that its members should be prosecuted for “their many crimes" There are numerous other examples of him stiffling free speach. He wants free speach for himself. Not everyone. Just because he said "free speach is the bedrock of Democracy" when he bought Twitter doesn't mean everyone should believe it. His actions have said otherwise.
Defunding Left Wing propagandist centers (or defunding any organization for that matter) has nothing to do with free speech. Don't be ridiculous, this coming from the same crowd who wanted the Ministry of Disinformation lol
Old 03-31-2025 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Bestglide
When jack Dorsey owned twitter was it a better platform for free speech than now?
VOA unbiased? I suppose NPR isn't biased either? If they are such wonderful bastions of free speech then why do they need to be subsidized? Should they not be able to survive on their own?
The VOA isn’t intended for US audiences. It’s a state-run propaganda tool for foreign audiences, so by design it is government-funded.
Old 03-31-2025 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Bestglide
When jack Dorsey owned twitter was it a better platform for free speech than now?
VOA unbiased? I suppose NPR isn't biased either? If they are such wonderful bastions of free speech then why do they need to be subsidized? Should they not be able to survive on their own?
To your first question, I don't know. I don't have, and never had, a Twitter account.
As to why VOA needs to be subsidized, law. Funded with Congressional approval before it was shut down last weekend. And the target audience are the citizens of nations that don't have access to media beyond state-sponsored media. It can't make it on it's own because it doesn't sell advertising to turn a profit.
Old 03-31-2025 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 89Pistons
To your first question, I don't know. I don't have, and never had, a Twitter account.
As to why VOA needs to be subsidized, law. Funded with Congressional approval before it was shut down last weekend. And the target audience are the citizens of nations that don't have access to media beyond state-sponsored media. It can't make it on it's own because it doesn't sell advertising to turn a profit.
Maybe they should have stuck to their mission instead of pushing Left Wing extremist ideologies, like what USAID did. Actions have consequences and you are seeing that being played out right now. America does not want that crap.
Old 03-31-2025 | 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ImSoSuss
Maybe they should have stuck to their mission instead of pushing Left Wing extremist ideologies, like what USAID did. Actions have consequences and you are seeing that being played out right now. America does not want that crap.
You could say the same about actions having consequences as Tesla price tanks and musk will never be accepted as a patriot. Musk dropped out of school on a student visa. Stayed in the country illegally and should be deported based on Trumps on policies. If only the consequences were applied evenly.

Musk paying to have friends is the best. It isn’t an awkward salute. It’s exactly what he meant it to be.
Old 03-31-2025 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Midsomer
You could say the same about actions having consequences as Tesla price tanks and musk will never be accepted as a patriot. Musk dropped out of school on a student visa. Stayed in the country illegally and should be deported based on Trumps on policies. If only the consequences were applied evenly.

Musk paying to have friends is the best. It isn’t an awkward salute. It’s exactly what he meant it to be.
Wouldn’t be a conversation with a Liberal unless they were babbling about false equivalences. Wow, you got me bro! Your last sentence proves you are fully and completely indoctrinated, beyond saving.
Old 03-31-2025 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ImSoSuss
Actions have consequences and you are seeing that being played out right now. America does not want that crap.
What are the odds the “actions have consequences” crowd appreciate the irony that by empowering the executive they like they are setting the stage for the one they don’t to come in & dismantle everything 47 is doing & completely restructure the country anew? This country was designed by people who were fed up with rule by the executive. Bet they’d be surprised to learn we’re willing to give it a second try.
Old 03-31-2025 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ClappedOut145
Typical with most UA threads, this thing has derailed. Maybe we can derail it further and talk about why we don’t publish DOH on the seniority list.
Everything these days must inevitably morph into a right versus left food fight. Keep trying y'all. Maybe one of these days someone will make that elusive point that changes everyone's minds.

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Old 03-31-2025 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by hummingbear
What are the odds the “actions have consequences” crowd appreciate the irony that by empowering the executive they like they are setting the stage for the one they don’t to come in & dismantle everything 47 is doing & completely restructure the country anew? This country was designed by people who were fed up with rule by the executive. Bet they’d be surprised to learn we’re willing to give it a second try.
Lot of babbling there without saying anything meaningful.
Old 03-31-2025 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ImSoSuss
Lot of babbling there without saying anything meaningful.
My argument was that current cheerleaders don’t seem to understand how dismantling checks on executive power have the potential for unintended long-term repercussions. You’re is that this is meaningless babble.

Thanks for helping illustrate my point.
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