There are screenshots all over of him crapping on the new pilots of United and how he needs two more years because we aren’t safe without people like him at the helm.

 

Show the screen shot that says what you claim he says. We’ll wait.

 

I would like two more years as a geezer. For me... Definitely not acceptable to present that an improvement to safety.

 

3 Faults in logic here, one per sentence:
1) The extra 2 years would be in our current seat, which for most is not WB Captain. So no, it would not make us happy.
2) If a guy enjoys something, well then by golly he should be allowed to do it? Where is this the law?
3) 121 or general aviation as the only two possibilities is a false choice. Go to Net Jets if you want to keep flying - see ya!

The only coherent thought here, “Yeah, that sucked” - your reference of the change from 60 to 65.

 

But what if it means an extra 2 years in the right seat of the Guppy?

I am old, and would not mind being able to work 121 longer (did 135/91k for almost a decade after age-65 so I know what is easier), but it is 2 years extra in the seat you are in now, not the seat you want.

 

The 570 were not "replacement workers". They were hired to be placed on a B scale after the contract. They went on strike with the rest of the pilots and then were fired for being on strike. If they were hired to scab, why did they almost all exclusively refuse to cross the picket line?

This just shows ignorance right here.

 

If this ever passes and ICAO is still 65, ALPA needs to negotiate a deal where they can fly as FOs on the guppy so they can mentor new Captains as they claim. If they sue to change it, then we can add them to the scab list and treat them as scabs.

 

I’m afraid your understanding is incorrect. The 570 were hired and trained prior to the strike, with management’s intention to use them as replacement workers and break the union. Thankfully, the union (Jamie Lindsay and the dumpster works) reached out to these pilots and kept them informed and in the fold. Also, management didn’t do sufficient homework and hired CAL strikers, offspring of union stalwarts, and others with backbone. Only four of the 570 crossed on day one of the strike, causing the company rush to hire 539 more pilots to do the dirty deed that most of the 570 turned down. The strike ended before many of the 539 had to face turning a wheel.

 

A brief summary of the 570: they were hired to scab, they knew it, and they were talked out of it.

 

“As the May 17 strike deadline neared, Ferris played his trump card. Through carefully orchestrated news releases, Ferris announced that he would hire “permanent replacements” in the event of a strike. To put teeth in his threat, Ferris had, since December 1984, trained, but not hired, 570 new second officers, telling them that they would be used for “expansion.” Clearly, Ferris expected to lure first officers across the picket line with promises of instant captaincies and to use “the 570” (as they came to be known) to fill out scab crews. The 570 were thus in an anomalous position, clearly contingent scabs, having neither union protection nor standing as employees.”

later….



“The young trainees with the odd nametags told Lindsey they were “pre-hires” who would be coming on the line as soon as ALPA signed a new contract. Lindsey, who had been an active “committee puke” at the MEC level, promptly phoned Roger Hall in Chicago to find out what he knew about them—which was nothing. Delegated by Hall to investigate these strange creatures further, Lindsey discovered that they were receiving only 19 days of training instead of the usual four to six weeks, that they were being paid a flat per diem rate of $26, with no allowance for either food or lodging, and that they were as bewilderedabout their status as ALPA was about them.

“Contacting them was real easy,” Lindsey laughs. “All I had to do was put up a sign that said, ‘Pre-hires Welcome Meeting, ALPA—FREE FOOD.’”

In short order, it became clear to everybody that the 570 were a strikebreaker force in training and that ALPA had better reach them quickly. With the assistance of Steve Forte, Bruce Lasch, and Raoul Bouher, Lindsey set up a systematic “contact program” aimed at the 570 as they came through the Denver training center each month. A key element in Lindsey’s “outreach” program involved offering the “pre-hires” tutoring and a “study hall” each evening staffed by ALPA volunteers. Since the 570 were getting nonstandard training but still had to go through the regular exams, they were very grateful. This assistance proved to the 570 in concrete terms that ALPA was more interested in their welfare than was management.”

Flying the Line Volume II.

The 570’s were hired with intent. There’s no argument about it. Now they laud themselves as the saviors of United because they didn’t cross (or went out on sick leave so as to not have to make a decision), but their entry into United was under suspicious terms and meant as a tool for Ferris to break ALPA.