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#101
Chief Student Pilot
Joined: Feb 2022
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Progression at the top end is slow. All the senior CAs that don’t want to fly the 78, love their 2 day Hawaii trips. Not efficient and you’re gone the full two days, but it is an easy trip.
LA is a weird base because it’s limited. There is no room to grow literally (like DEN or IAH) and figuratively (LAWA won’t allow one airline to dominate). Yes terminal 9 will be built sometime in the next decade but there have been company emails that describe how “great terminal 9 will be for our STAR Alliance partners!”. So not sure how much dedicated gate space we will have there. There’s also no real room to shrink because it is such an important market. But between the big four airlines there everyone is around 18-22% of the market. No clear leader.
What that means for UAL is you have a medium size 737 base. A small A320 base. A small and further shrinking 756 base. And a medium 787 base. The movement has been good on the FO side for the 73. It’ll be 2-3 years before you can get to the plug on the 78. But that’s my guess I haven’t looked at the seniority numbers to see if that’s accurate. I’m interested to see where they’re going to be putting these 78s that are being delivered this year and the years to come. And whether or not it will grow the 78 base in LA. I’m hopefully pessimistic.
LA is a weird base because it’s limited. There is no room to grow literally (like DEN or IAH) and figuratively (LAWA won’t allow one airline to dominate). Yes terminal 9 will be built sometime in the next decade but there have been company emails that describe how “great terminal 9 will be for our STAR Alliance partners!”. So not sure how much dedicated gate space we will have there. There’s also no real room to shrink because it is such an important market. But between the big four airlines there everyone is around 18-22% of the market. No clear leader.
What that means for UAL is you have a medium size 737 base. A small A320 base. A small and further shrinking 756 base. And a medium 787 base. The movement has been good on the FO side for the 73. It’ll be 2-3 years before you can get to the plug on the 78. But that’s my guess I haven’t looked at the seniority numbers to see if that’s accurate. I’m interested to see where they’re going to be putting these 78s that are being delivered this year and the years to come. And whether or not it will grow the 78 base in LA. I’m hopefully pessimistic.
#102
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#103
On Reserve
Joined: Jun 2019
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#104
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Joined: Mar 2018
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I'm considering switching from the Bus to the 756 in EWR (FO). I live local and I'm one of those "bid reserve to hide and avoid work" types. So far it's been successful on the bus. I assume the 756 is the same way?
Also, about how many weeks should I expect for the 756 qual course?
Also, about how many weeks should I expect for the 756 qual course?
#105
I'm considering switching from the Bus to the 756 in EWR (FO). I live local and I'm one of those "bid reserve to hide and avoid work" types. So far it's been successful on the bus. I assume the 756 is the same way?
Also, about how many weeks should I expect for the 756 qual course?
Also, about how many weeks should I expect for the 756 qual course?
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Thank you! Yup, I would indeed be still commuting to BWI short call rsv if I had stayed at SWA. And I hadn't buddies who got hired there before I did, two of whom got displaced only a couple months after finally being awarded their Western bases of choice. I can't complain...!
plan would be stay in right seat a while wife and lucked into a good house in 2020 so the pay cut is no issue fortunately.
at least til how long till weekends off and no redeye I have not done one 3.5 years not sure if I’m ready to go back
#110
Line Holder
Joined: Feb 2022
Posts: 587
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From: 73FO
The pre UPA, midcontinent base growth to incentive upgrades is largely done, so it’s trending back to the traditional pattern of pushing new hires to SFO and EWR. I imagine you’ll see a very fast progression initially until you get past to the people who want to be based elsewhere, then it will slow until the more senior local folks to get tired of redeyes or upgrade. If hiring continues as planned it won’t take long. The 25% mark is a ~15,700 seniority number, and I think we have 19,000 pilots on property so that’s like 2-2.5ish years.
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