Originally Posted by 11atsomto (Post 4024680)

if I lived I Denver I would try to "get in the building" however I could.......something tells me my views on Airbus best practices wouldn't enhance my chances.

I have met at least two TK Airbus instructors (one former F9 one former NK) who agree with me.......they haven't brought it up too much for very OBVIOUS reasons. Which was kind of the genesis of the whole thread drift that...in a merger or acquisition they (B6) being the bigger Airbus operation...reverting to more Airbus school of thought for policy origination might just happen organically.

I know Liberty is just fuming at the mouth, but he up until my post didn't even know what FCOM was......

Also somewhat recently , Im not sure what year it was, but Airbus had the best score in the fleet in some safety metrics using FOQA analytics. Manny Instructors told me that they thought in part FMA callouts (a VERY AIRBUS thing) had at least some role in that.........I'm not making this up people.

Originally Posted by turbojet28 (Post 4024738)

I came from nearly a decade at F9 and am now Airbus at UA. I wouldn’t call the way United flies the AB unprofessional, but there certainly are some cultural things that seem “goofy” from my previous experience. Chief among them being the absolutely insane obsession about brake temperatures. Also, the weird aversion to using auto brakes an any landing, or the lack of trust in the auto thrust system. I admit that I enjoy flying manual thrust quite often for personal enjoyment, but many people I fly with never use it because they genuinely have some weird trust issues with it. I have never seen the Airbus autothrust perform poorly enough that I wouldn’t feel comfortable using it at any time.

Also have seen many pilots fly around for significant amounts of time in MCT thrust (which UA allows, but I thought Airbus did not?).

Originally Posted by jdt30 (Post 4024758)

it’s not lack of trust of the autothrust it’s just we like to hand fly without autothrust.

I completely agree about the auto brakes and brake temps. The guppy is taxiing around with their brakes on fire and we’re worried about ours hitting 300 degrees.

Originally Posted by RStrawberry (Post 4024747)

They will someday come around. I heard an old story that as Spirit was growing, Airbus more or less forced their hand at following strictly Airbus modus operandi.. saying we will only continue to support you if you adhere to our way of doing things. No idea if true.

It’s a superbly designed aircraft. I’d hate for UA to never come around to it.

Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 4024786)

I’m not sure what that means. We’ve had the Airbus longer than NK, Frontier and B6. If we haven’t “come around” in the 33 years since our first delivery, I’m thinking it’ll look rather similar for the next 33.

Originally Posted by 11atsomto (Post 4024831)

I think that what sort of the genesis of my joke to begin with is that we likely will NOT come around unless say 223 (plus 54 orders) A320 family of aircraft are introduced to our fleet. Even then, I don't think we will revert to Toulouse's policies but certainly there will inexorably have to be a fusion of policies.......and for the record there are things at B6 that are not Kosher with Toulouse.......but just significantly less than us.

It was my poor attempt at humor, since it would be bittersweet for me to see a reversion to more Airbus policy origination, simultaneously with my career progression being at its absolute worst........ since I was hired there last decade and here this decade.
Airbus industry practices and techniques is not really something I loose sleep over.......potentially merging with JetBlue certainly is.

I apologize it was just my poor attempt at comic relief to counter what may be career long depression.

Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 4024973)

Just do your future F/O’s a favor, when you upgrade, fly it the way we fly it and not the way your previous employer flew it. Your badge says United,
fly our manuals and procedures. If you want to make changes, sachet your way into a management fleet job and try to affect change.

Originally Posted by 11atsomto (Post 4024124)

...Oh that guy. He's never lied before

He is just angry that B6 can't acquire Breeze, which was his whole intention of starting Breeze just so he could come back and control what he founded. "Neeleman never fails"...some Blue Juicers (Jetblue company cool aid guys) say.......which is only true if you don't count his failures.

His whole "success" formula only works with cheap, at-will labor.

Originally Posted by 11atsomto (Post 4022361)

Currently at JetBlue what we call a Vacancy bid only contractual has to occur once a year, however pilots can change their B E S just like we can. Since the A220 compensates roughly 10% less per flight hour (all other things being equal) it tends to be more junior. Pretty certain that Junior pilots at JetBlue would be getting a windfall at the expense of pilots senior to them.