Unless I’m misunderstanding your #1, merging or buying JetBlue’s A220 does not unlock scope at UAL and allow for more 76 seaters. Per the UPA, it has to be a in house order for the 220-100 or other NSNB to unlock those additional 76 seaters.

Maybe they buy the 220’s and open up a wholly owned regional with them. After the FAs ratify their TA, of course.

Most of the PanAm purchases were no pilots. Only the Honolulu operation did we bring them on with the planes. It was a separate division of PanAm with their unique structure, unlike now where its one airline.

Also McCaskill Bond is irrelevant. We use ALPA merger policy. With a less than 50% acquisition we would take no employees.

I highly doubt United would want the 220 operation because the goal is to upgauge and not downgauge. I can't imagine that would be cost effective at our mainline wages for all employee groups working it.

What happened to ALPA’s fragmentation policy, which (at the time) was essentially intended to be used for asset sales where only part of an operation was transferred—including routes, slots, gates, aircraft, and associated flying—as opposed to situations where essentially the entire operation was acquired or merged?

The ALPA fragmentation policy was very different then from merger policy.

By contrast, ALPA merger policy was intended to apply when all or substantially all of an operation was acquired or combined, triggering a full integration of pilot groups and seniority lists.

At least at the time, the distinction was relatively clear:

• Fragmentation policy → partial transfers of assets and flying (routes, slots, gates, aircraft
• Merger policy → acquisition or merger of essentially the entire operation

Needless to say a fragmentation seniority integration was far different from a true merger seniority negation. Fragmentation used to be an official ALPA policy what happened to ALPA’s fragmentation policy?

It's still there. Section 45, Merger and Fragmentation Policy of the Administrative Manual. But the integration of any pilots acquired as part of fragmentation looks like it is generally handled in the same manner as a merger.

What does the JetBlue CBA say about fragmentation? Most modern pilot agreements involve the rights of members to transfer with the acquired assets.

From the UPA:

1-E Other Labor Protective Provisions
If the Company disposes of or transfers to an air carrier (the “Transferee”) (by sale, lease or other transaction, whether directly or indirectly through an Affiliate or lessor or vendor to the Transferee) either (i) seventy-five percent (75%) or more of the gates and other facilities used in Company Flying at any Company Hub or (ii) aircraft or route authority which produced fifteen percent (15%) or more of the Company’s operating revenues, block hours, or ASMs during the twelve (12) months immediately prior to the date of the agreement to transfer such aircraft or route authority (the “Transaction Date”), net of revenues, block hours or ASMs that are produced by aircraft or route authority that were placed into service during the same period (any such transfer, a “Substantial Asset Sale”), then:

1-E-1 Offer of Employment to United Pilots.
The Company shall require the Transferee to offer pilot employment to eligible United Pilots. The eligibility criteria shall be determined by agreement between the Company and the Association and shall be reasonably related to the assets transferred, the interests of the United Pilots and the Company, and the nature and timing of the transaction among other issues. If the Association and the Company are unable to agree upon eligibility criteria that are consistent with the foregoing considerations, the System Board of Adjustment shall determine such eligibility criteria pursuant to the expedited procedures set forth in Section 1-K-1 (the “Transferring Pilots”). The number of pilot employment opportunities for Transferring Pilots shall be, as measured in the twelve (12) months prior to the Transaction Date, the sum of (i) the average monthly Pilot staffing actually utilized in the operation of the aircraft transferred to the Transferee in connection with the Substantial Asset Sale plus (ii) the average monthly Pilot staffing actually utilized in the operation of the route authority transferred to the Transferee in connection with the Substantial Asset Sale to the extent such Pilot staffing is not included in the calculation of clause (i) above. Offers of employment that are rejected by a United Pilot shall in turn be offered to other United Pilots under the eligibility criteria determined under this Section 1-E-1, until such opportunities have been exhausted.

1-E-2 Seniority Integration
The Company shall require the Transferee to provide the Transferring Pilots with the seniority integration rights provided in the McCaskill-Bond Statute and Sections 3 and 13 of the AlleghenyMohawk LPPs except that the integration of the Transferring pilots into the Transferee’s seniority list shall be governed by Association Merger Policy if both pre-transaction Pilot groups are represented by the Association. The Company shall require each Transferee to provide the seniority integration rights specified in the preceding sentence in connection with a Substantial Asset Sale in a written document enforceable against the Transferee by the Association and/or the Transferring Pilots.

Thank you.

When PanAm sold its Pacific operation to United only some pilots came, how were they integrated? When PanAm sold its Atlantic operation to Delta only some pilots came. A310 (small Airbus Widebody 2 pilot but had yokes) and some 727 pilots for the shuttle operation, how were they integrated?

I know in the Delta deal no 747 pilots got to go to Delta (by far the most senior PanAm pilots).

Clearly you never heard of the Dirty Thirty! 30 747 pilots got near instant 727 requals and came over.

ALPA Fragmentation policy is ONLY used if employees are brought over. There is no requirement to bring over employees if less than 50% of the total asset value of an airline is being purchased, per Federal Law. So even if United bought some gates/planes etc, United doesn't have to take employees and certainly won’t.

Its not going to happen. The most United would buy would be some JFK slots, but they are already getting them from the partnership.

Its not relevant. United is not a party to the CBA between Jetblue and the Jetblue pilots, so United doesn't have to honor it. Its generally a meaningless clause.