United took the Hawaii 747 pilots and integrated them Date of Hire. There were not that many of them and they were fenced on the 747s and replaced with United pilots as they retired. I think they were all gone by the late 90s. It was worth it because United pilots could be based in Honolulu almost immediately.

We still have legacy PanAm flight attendants that are HNL based.

I missed the no merger clause. But it says "acquired through merger or acquisition of another air carrier"

This would be an asset purchase, as noted above. Still think the company and union would be smart to bring the pilots.

And yes, upgauging is the win, but having enough 76 seaters to kill the 450/550 is upgauging too. There's a big hole in the system between 50 and 150 seats.

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I hope Jetblue buys only a single WB CA named FriendlyPilot and stick him on permanent airport standby in SDQ flying the C402. After all, the UAL CBA is irrelevant.

That's actually more likely than United buying Jetblue.

Not saying they won't but they are not required to take pilots, just like United didn't have to take any Southwest pilots when it bought 19 737-700s in 2019 from them.

Hold on a sec Friendly. You're comparing apples and potatoes. Some on the thread are discussing the purchase of all or part of a struggling airline. You're referring to airplanes that were coming off lease at SWA and were for sale outright by a leasing company. The leasing company was selling them, why would pilots be involved? I'm not sure how your statement proves anything.

Those airplanes never actually entered the fleet anyway.

I’m the last guy that would want any type of merger, acquisition, or partial acquisition, as I was hired there last decade and here this decade. I would need to talk to my AME to help me through the approved lists of anti depressants.

As some have noted there may have been some cases in the 70’s where such instances took place, but there is no way such a thing would happen in 2026…..however prudent a business move it might seem to be.

I see one area in particular which would be troublesome which is ALPA administrative manual, Section 45.G.5.b

Which basically says that the merger committee and representatives shall try to keep in mind some collective goals….(b) Avoid windfalls for one group at the expense of the other.

Currently at JetBlue what we call a Vacancy bid only contractual has to occur once a year, however pilots can change their B E S just like we can. Since the A220 compensates roughly 10% less per flight hour (all other things being equal) it tends to be more junior. Pretty certain that Junior pilots at JetBlue would be getting a windfall at the expense of pilots senior to them.

Perhaps we shouldn’t have bullied you for your suggestion. At least I apologize …….but it is very unlikely to happen I think.

Most of Jetblue's A-220s are leased as well. Also their successorship clause is only in effect if over 25% of ASMs are transferred, which the entire A-220 fleet is not that many ASMs. So its a moot point.

I don't know how this whole conversation is even relevant, because its not going to happen.

It wasn't the 70’s. United bought PanAm’s Pacific operation in 1985 and Delta bought the Atlantic in 1991.

What you’re referring to above referencing the A220 is exactly what occurred with Pan Am in Delta’s Atlantic acquisition. By far, the most senior airplane at PanAm was the 747. The A310 was relatively junior and there weren’t that many 727’s and it was the most junior airplane. Other than the 30 pilots referred to in a previous post above (that nearly instantaneously re qualified on the 727 off of the 747). The vast majority of PanAm pilots they went to Delta in the acquisition were relatively junior.

As ragged out as the 737 -700s are, I wish they could return them. I hate it I see one on my sked .