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Originally Posted by 11atsomto (Post 4032740)

I understand you are from WN?

I'm not sure I understand your question

He's saying he doesn’t like landing on short runways, but at SWA at least they get more repetition that landing on them becomes more normalized and practiced

However, folks that fly heavies may only get a few landings a month. Of those, only a fraction may occur on runways less than 7,000’. Due to the lack of practice (confidence), perhaps the nerves get the brain to deviate from standard and dip a little low, not fully processing the ramifications of those actions.

I added the last part. But that’s what I think he’s getting at.

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Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer;[url=tel:4032435

4032435[/url]]Just goes to show you how tight that approach actually is. It’s bad enough on a NB, I can only imagine a WB. It was bounce to happen

30* AOB @ 145kts gives you the same size turn circle whether your plane weighs 100k lbs or 500k lbs. I’ve flown the circle to 29 in every plane UAL has in the inventory. If you follow the procedures it’s the same every time, the Airbus just calls you a “retard” when you’re doing it.

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Originally Posted by Rseat;[url=tel:4032737

4032737[/url]]I’ll never get used to landing on shorter than normal runways. I’ve been around the block, but those type of landing never cease to make the heart rate go up.

We have our own challenging airports here at Cowboys Airways. Nothing makes me happier (sarcasm) than landing in MDW, gusty winds, heavy, and a wet runway on an 800 or MAX! We require flaps 40, max autobrakes, with the probility of overspeeding the flaps probably greater than 70%. Fun fun..

But, we do this all the time. After all, there’s no way our crew planners would EVER let us fly just one or two legs per day. So we get a lot of repetition. Which begs the question, do heavy guys/gals get the same in your neck of the woods? Could this be a factor? I truly don’t know and simply speculating..

Ever landed a 739 in SJO when it’s wet? 12k’(?) of runway and at auto brakes max you need almost all of it. The length of the runway is only half the equation, and 6700’ (or whatever 29 is), is well within the capabilities of the 764, or any WB I’ve flown.

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Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 4032757)

‘Tight’ was referencing the Air Canada 787 landing on 29 that looked like it barely cleared the light pole and a truck. Either they were low as well, or there is absolutely no room for being low on 29 for a widebody. Apparently the FAA was doing some tests on 29 today.

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Originally Posted by flypanam (Post 4032816)

apparently the faa was doing some tests on 29 today.

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You know you can divert right? Why are people landing on bread trucks and hitting light poles. That’s the real problem here, failure was starting the approach.

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Originally Posted by meahPilot (Post 4032841)

You know you can divert right? Why are people landing on bread trucks and hitting light poles. That’s the real problem here, failure was starting the approach.

But they did. Entirely consistent with countless other similar, ordinary clearances. Guidelines for abandoning approaches are published in every operator’s approved flight manual. Outside the slot as defined, go. No harm no foul.

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Originally Posted by JoeBlo (Post 4031370)

What in the DEi is going on.....

Maybe less emphasis on gender and sexual orientation and more emphasis on flying the airplane...

The crew is all male caucasion.

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Originally Posted by OFFCOURSE (Post 4032901)

The crew is all male caucasion.

But how many homeless shelter soup kitchen and kitten rescue merit badges did they have?

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Originally Posted by meahPilot (Post 4032841)

You know you can divert right? Why are people landing on bread trucks and hitting light poles. That’s the real problem here, failure was starting the approach.

‘just because ATC clears you doesn’t mean you have to accept it… just say “unable 29” and they’ll give you 04/22… simple. It’s not worth the risk on a WB after a long flight.

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Originally Posted by OFFCOURSE (Post 4032901)

The crew is all male caucasion.

Hearsay, unnecessary, and goes against company policy. Good job dipsh1t. See ya at a random subway