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Originally Posted by uaav8r (Post 1022783)

This is the day our furloughees and their families have been waiting for. These guys have been through hell and back (twice for many) and I'm sure are happy to return to work at either "subsidiary".

Well put. And I totally agree.

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Originally Posted by pilotgolfer (Post 1022767)

The 6 month wait for medical should not apply, if I understand the agreement correctly.

Neither should the $31 an hour. You should get "recalled/hired" at the higher of your last UAL rate or the longevity rate at CAL that applies. So if you were getting paid at 8 year UAL rates, you will get paid at the higher of that rate or 8 year CAL rates until the CAL rates catch up to the UAL rate. Hopefully we have a JCBA before that would kick in anyway and that is all moot.

ALPA should merge the seniority lists now.
Then the company can't whipsaw the pilot groups against each other. The negotiating committee then will know what to negotiate and will have a United front behind them.
Let's write the last chapter to this murder mystery ourselves. It's time we get our act together and quit waiting for the company to do something.

What, are you scared of the outcome?

Let's not become another USAirways.

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Originally Posted by Yak02 (Post 1022944)

Um, that's why they're NOT doing the SLI now, it would turn into us air!

It's great news indeed. Odd how the info is saying between 100-200 pilots when the system bid actually shows 201 vacancies. Of course if they say 200 then it should be 400 but glad to see this being worked out and offered to the UAL guys and gals.

Well... even being at the bottom of CALS list.. for now... if they are going to get paid on their correct longevity level..... its probably better than still sitting at home if their desire is to ever come back...its a positive step at least.

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Originally Posted by Bugs (Post 1022723)

United Pilots: Recall of Up To 200 Pilots 'Welcome' News

The United MEC today issued the following press release following the Company's announcement of the recall of 100 to 200 furloughed United pilots, who will be offered jobs to fly for United Continental Holdings, Inc.'s Continental subsidiary.

United Pilots: Recall of Up to 200 Pilots ‘Welcome’ News

Chicago, Ill., July 14, 2011--The United pilots today welcomed the company’s announcement of the return of 100 to 200 furloughed pilots. It is the hope of the United Chapter of the Air Line Pilots Association that these recalls are the first of a wave of recalls that will eventually lead to the return of all our 1,437 furloughed pilots.

“When a furloughed United pilot returns to our cockpits, whether United or subsidiary Continental, it is welcome news,” said United MEC Chairman Captain Wendy Morse. “No pilots have paid a higher price for the recent shocks to the aviation industry than the 1,437 United pilots who have been on furlough.

Training could begin as early as late September. While these pilots will be hired to staff Continental aircraft, they will retain seniority rights in position on the United pilot seniority list. The seniority lists of both carriers will only be merged after the completion of a Joint Collective Bargaining Agreement allowing United to recognize the benefits of finally completing the merger.

“We still have work to do to get the remaining United pilots off the street,” added Capt. Morse. “We remain focused on securing a Joint Collective Bargaining Agreement with United and getting all of our pilots back to work. We look forward to that day and will not rest until they return.”

This is great news!

Let's be clear, we were not furloughed from Continental, hence, this is NOT a recall. In fact no where in the T&P agreement is it referred to anything other than a "job opportunity". It is no different then a furloughee getting hired at another part 121 outfit. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy if this means somebody can work but this is outright misrepresentation and a lie by our MEC.

Sorry to throw cold water on the party. I'll celebrate when we are recalled to the CAREER that has been lost. Until then, we are just practicing for an SLI with a big ol' staple gun involved.

KC

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Originally Posted by luv757 (Post 1022932)

I thought it was your last UAL pay rate or whatever your CAL Longevity (1st year), whichevr is higher. In most cases, the UAL rate is higher.

I hope I am reading this wrong?????

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Originally Posted by pilotgolfer (Post 1022767)

The 6 month wait for medical should not apply, if I understand the agreement correctly.

Most of us UAL furloughees are not young guys, we have families and need medical coverage from day one. As far as I know, we will get that..

Jeffie wants the CAL contract for everyone. No one is agreeing so he is just moving flying and personnel to the contract side that he desires.

I cannot believe that the UAL MEC views this as some sort of "victory". It is a failure if anything. Talk of parking Airbuses and 757's, furloughees going to the other " subsidiary", and, very likely, more furloughs at United this winter as a result.

If you are at the bottom of the UA list, the senior furloughee will be working this winter for the "other subsidiary" when you get your furlough notice. Good work MEC.

Victory is ours - you gotta be kidding me.

PIPE