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Old 02-10-2012 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by catan
The CAL guys have never had a good contract. Why do think they were so quick to gobble up PS. The only thing they ever had in their contract was scope. I believe Jeff thought he could take it away anytime he wanted. With J. pos leading the charge it seems more likely they will try to get it through a side-deal.

If you are saying we have no backbone, what then pray tell do you have? So we gave up a grievance to get PS, albeit without our approval, and we are the bad guys here? You quick to point the finger, holier-than-thou brain surgeons gave away an entire contact. Focus your ignorant and misplaced anger at the person(s) that screwed you; I'll bring you a full length mirror.

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Old 02-10-2012 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by EWR73FO
If you are saying we have no backbone, what then pray tell do you have? So we gave up a grievance to get PS, albeit without our approval, and we are the bad guys here? You quick to point the finger, holier-than-thou brain surgeons gave away an entire contact. Focus your ignorant and misplaced anger at the person(s) that screwed you; I'll bring you a full length mirror.

Guilt is a terrible thing! You want to talk about it?
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Old 02-10-2012 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by catan
Guilt is a terrible thing! You want to talk about it?
Now how are we guilty of your last contract? You got some splain' to do Lucy.
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Old 02-10-2012 | 06:39 PM
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No problem. I'll have my PS check burned out the tailpipe by Sunday.
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Old 02-11-2012 | 03:43 AM
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No problem. I'll have my PS check burned out the tailpipe by Sunday.
Dexim, er..."Catan" will have smoked all his by then...
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Old 02-11-2012 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 13n144e
Dexim, er..."Catan" will have smoked all his by then...
Sure seems like the same goofball posting the same BS over and over, doesn't it?
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Old 02-11-2012 | 07:05 AM
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Old 02-11-2012 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by jsled
Besides, according to you're fellow CAL pilots, your old profit sharing formula was not as lucrative as it is now. (15% of pre-tax profit)
FALSE.

The OLD profit sharing plan was much more lucrative to the CAL employees and specifically the CAL pilots as written.

The old profit sharing plan put aside varying percentages based on different tiers of pre-tax profit. I don't have the original document so I will give you an example of how the money placed into the profit sharing pool was determined:

25% of profit up to $250 million.
20% of profit from $250-$500 million
15% of profit above $500 million.

Again these are examples. The percentages determined the pool value.

The pool was divided into two equal halves. Half of the pool was distributed based on each employee's percentage share of income to total payroll. The other half of the pool was distributed in accordance with the percentage of total concessions each work group gave. The pilots gave back the most so they got the biggest share of this half of the pool.

The amounts of money put aside under the OLD plan would be a lot more than this flat 15% of all profit. Talking with some of the captains I have flown with, their PS checks under the old plan were higher. When the change was announced I did a few quick examples of my own and knew then that our PS payout would be less under the new PS plan.
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