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02-18-2012 | 05:57 AM
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Ual has some non etops 757 and 767 airplanes
CAL has all etops 757 and 767 airplanes
I do know that there are A LOT of OLD, inefficient airplanes on the Ual side of the fence.
02-18-2012 | 05:59 AM
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Legacy United pilots deserve credit for their time on the property. We were sacrificed to position United for the Continental merger. Jay Pierce is on record as saying it is a good thing that the merger committees were put in place during the first round of negotiations in I think it was 2008, and never terminated. The TWA pilots won a suit against ALPA and the settlement is being negotiated, they don't have to go back to American.
02-18-2012 | 06:01 AM
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So when the latest deal (TPA TA) that your Jay approved, sees the light of day, your gonna be ok with it? As of three plus years ago, we were number two in the industry on 737 pay. Kinda hard to change that without a new CBA. And no, an RJ outfit is the one that does all of your 70+ seat flying and our 50+ seat flying. If your are going to continue to use this analogy, please understand our 737's have more seats than some of your 757's and all of your Airbus fleet or are they all RJ's too?
You are one angry young man; most here would agree that you direct that anger at the wrong people. Or is that your intent?
You are one angry young man; most here would agree that you direct that anger at the wrong people. Or is that your intent?
02-18-2012 | 06:09 AM
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No. That is a false rumor your side continues to spread. All 777's and 767's are etops. Some have two class cabins, some three. They are all etops aircraft. Only a small percentage of the 757's are Etops because The only flying they do where etops is needed is to Hawaii. You guys talk like that somehow makes the aircraft inferior. It is really a matter of what you use that for. Why would you want to pay extra to maintain etops status on an aircraft that never flies anywhere the certification is needed?
02-18-2012 | 06:12 AM
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02-18-2012 | 06:19 AM
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No. That is a false rumor your side continues to spread. All 777's and 767's are etops. Some have two class cabins, some three. They are all etops aircraft. Only a small percentage of the 757's are Etops because The only flying they do where etops is needed is to Hawaii. You guys talk like that somehow makes the aircraft inferior. It is really a matter of what you use that for. Why would you want to pay extra to maintain etops status on an aircraft that never flies anywhere the certification is needed?
02-18-2012 | 06:26 AM
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No. That is a false rumor your side continues to spread. All 777's and 767's are etops. Some have two class cabins, some three. They are all etops aircraft. Only a small percentage of the 757's are Etops because The only flying they do where etops is needed is to Hawaii. You guys talk like that somehow makes the aircraft inferior. It is really a matter of what you use that for. Why would you want to pay extra to maintain etops status on an aircraft that never flies anywhere the certification is needed?
02-18-2012 | 06:28 AM
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Good question. Why does CAL maintain ETOPS on the whole 737NG fleet? Other than Hawaii, which is new to the 737, I've never seen an ETOPS leg in it. Some Guam flying, which isn't much. Maybe Caribbean when Bermuda is down, but that's rare. I wonder how much it costs?
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