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Blockoutblockin 03-07-2012 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by pilotgolfer (Post 1147287)
What is the DOH of junior Capt in EWR and IAH. How about junior pilot DOH on EWR 757 and 777. Just curious.

Lol, could someone who is more computer savvy (just about everyone) post the snapshot - assuming not a breach of confidentiality?

The junior NYC 777 FO is 4/11/2006. The junior NYC 757 FO is a UAL recall N67xx.

pilotgolfer 03-07-2012 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by Blockoutblockin (Post 1147291)
Lol, could someone who is more computer savvy (just about everyone) post the snapshot - assuming not a breach of confidentiality?

The junior NYC 777 FO is 4/11/2006. The junior NYC 757 FO is a UAL recall N67xx.


Can you pick up my dry cleaning and get the oil changed in my car? Just kidding...thanks for posting.

Blockoutblockin 03-07-2012 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by pilotgolfer (Post 1147299)
Can you pick up my dry cleaning and get the oil changed in my car? Just kidding...thanks for posting.

No worries, lol. I had to go back and cross reference the names with the seniority list. Junior IAH 737 CA is 6/05/2001 and EWR 737 CA is a '99 hire.

pilotgolfer 03-07-2012 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by Blockoutblockin (Post 1147304)
No worries, lol. I had to go back and cross reference the names with the seniority list. Junior IAH 737 CA is 6/05/2001 and EWR 737 CA is a '99 hire.


I found the PDF on UAL board...thanks.

Andy 03-07-2012 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by pilotgolfer (Post 1147287)
What is the DOH of junior Capt in EWR and IAH. How about junior pilot DOH on EWR 757 and 777. Just curious.

I don't know how valuable the DOH of the junior pilots on any LCAL equipment is ... they are on reserve. And with LCAL's current contract, reserve at LCAL sounds like complete abuse of pilots from what I've read. Worse than most regional carriers.

SoCalGuy 03-07-2012 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 1147330)
I don't know how valuable the DOH of the junior pilots on any LCAL equipment is ... they are on reserve. And with LCAL's current contract, reserve at LCAL sounds like complete abuse of pilots from what I've read. Worse than most regional carriers.

....And the Junior Pilots (presently working/on property) at L-UA are NOT on reserve???

Your Point??

(The lighter.....As far as the current CBA/reserve rules being a POS, that I understand)

EWR73FO 03-07-2012 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 1147330)
I don't know how valuable the DOH of the junior pilots on any LCAL equipment is ... they are on reserve. And with LCAL's current contract, reserve at LCAL sounds like complete abuse of pilots from what I've read. Worse than most regional carriers.

It is what you make of it, to a degree.

contrail67 03-07-2012 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 1147330)
I don't know how valuable the DOH of the junior pilots on any LCAL equipment is ... they are on reserve. And with LCAL's current contract, reserve at LCAL sounds like complete abuse of pilots from what I've read. Worse than most regional carriers.

What is CAL's policy on reserve in this situation....you are going into 4 days off and get home on the first day..can they reassign you on day 2 for a trip or once you are gone you are on your days off...I keep hearing of them being able to move days off around.

Andy 03-07-2012 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by SoCalGuy (Post 1147455)
....And the Junior Pilots (presently working/on property) at L-UA are NOT on reserve???

Your Point??

(The lighter.....As far as the current CBA/reserve rules being a POS, that I understand)

There's a vast difference between LCAL reserve and reserve at other carriers. Even Mesa sounds more humane than LCAL's reserve policies.

We all know that you have two choices as to how you 'spend' your seniority. Either senior on an airframe that pays less money or junior (ask reserve) on an airframe that pays more money.
Reserve goes junior to lineholders because it's not as desirable. LCAL's contract moves the gap between reserve and lineholder to a completely different level.
Simply put, other than the junior entry position, 737 FO, comparing a junior LCAL pilot with a junior pilot at other airlines is apples to oranges.

Slammer 03-07-2012 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 1147330)
I don't know how valuable the DOH of the junior pilots on any LCAL equipment is ... they are on reserve. And with LCAL's current contract, reserve at LCAL sounds like complete abuse of pilots from what I've read. Worse than most regional carriers.

Huge difference in reserve quality of life between 73, 757 and 777. 737 is horrific not so much on the 757 and the 777 folks never fly. It's the lack of staffing and difference in how CAL covers the entire 737 system with reserves not necessarily a base specific.


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