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GGG 2172 03-05-2012 06:32 PM
Originally Posted by Slammer (Post 1146376)
Bases are to be staffed to support ops in Sept, so Ual furloughed or off the street hires will need to be trained to fill vacancies. Just finished my annual MV/LOE and was told they expect to hire off the street based on the historical UA take rate and train throughout the summer, to cover vacancies. We'll see....but can't see how they can fill vacancies across the 737 without training this summer and hiring (as there are no reductions).
Thanks Slammer! That's what I was hoping to hear. We'll see what happens...

pilotgolfer 03-05-2012 06:32 PM
Originally Posted by Slammer (Post 1146376)
Bases are to be staffed to support ops in Sept, so Ual furloughed or off the street hires will need to be trained to fill vacancies. Just finished my annual MV/LOE and was told they expect to hire off the street based on the historical UA take rate and train throughout the summer, to cover vacancies. We'll see....but can't see how they can fill vacancies across the 737 without training this summer and hiring (as there are no reductions).
Slammer...we just got an update from our furlough coordinator that seemed to imply that there would be additional hiring beyond the April 17th class. The way I read it, seems like they might run more classes throughout the summer leading up to the opening of the new bases in Sept 2012. I emailed him back for clarification...have to wait and see what he says.



This just in...



The pre-summer training may overflow into May, but will not likely reach your seniority. They expect the Sept. 2012 slots to be filled by pilots already on the property

(that was from Chen)


followed by...

There will be additional hiring in the fall, but the slots in the new bases will be filled by re-balancing the pilots they have on property for the summer. As I understand it, September is the right time for this kind of re-arranging of manpower because of the seasonal reduction in manpower requirements following Labor Day. Manpower planning is very complicated, and the subject does not lend itself to easy description in newsletters!

GGG 2172 03-05-2012 06:57 PM
Will LCAL pilots have their own Flight Ops at DEN and ORD or will they share the LUAL Flight Ops, and same with LUAL pilots in IAH? If so, are the LCAL planes now occupying gates close to LUAL Ops? Sorry if this is a dumb question, I've been out of the loop for awhile.

Andy 03-05-2012 10:11 PM
Originally Posted by Slammer (Post 1146376)
Bases are to be staffed to support ops in Sept, so Ual furloughed or off the street hires will need to be trained to fill vacancies. Just finished my annual MV/LOE and was told they expect to hire off the street based on the historical UA take rate and train throughout the summer, to cover vacancies. We'll see....but can't see how they can fill vacancies across the 737 without training this summer and hiring (as there are no reductions).
One of the furloughed UAL guys confirmed that a 1 May class with Charlie Venema. The class size is supposed to be smaller; ~12. The April class sizes are supposed to be 20.
It wouldn't surprise me if they went with 1-2 small classes/mo throughout the summer. This would be a slowdown but not complete shutdown of training.

Blockoutblockin 03-07-2012 07:40 AM
Snapshot is out.

bkaz 03-07-2012 08:10 AM
Snapshot is out.
We're there enough takers to fill the new bases? How senior are they?

Blockoutblockin 03-07-2012 08:18 AM
Originally Posted by bkaz (Post 1147270)
We're there enough takers to fill the new bases? How senior are they?
Yes. Denver went wayyy senior. Guam is way junior. Others were typical spread.

pilotgolfer 03-07-2012 08:23 AM
Originally Posted by Blockoutblockin (Post 1147275)
Yes. Denver went wayyy senior. Guam is way junior. Others were typical spread.

What sort of DOH was the junior captain and what base?

Blockoutblockin 03-07-2012 08:30 AM
Originally Posted by pilotgolfer (Post 1147277)
What sort of DOH was the junior captain and what base?
Preliminarily the DOH is 7/26/2005 in Guam.

pilotgolfer 03-07-2012 08:33 AM
Originally Posted by Blockoutblockin (Post 1147286)
Preliminarily the DOH is 7/26/2005 in Guam.

What is the DOH of junior Capt in EWR and IAH. How about junior pilot DOH on EWR 757 and 777. Just curious.


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