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Old 03-02-2012 | 09:08 AM
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I've traveled the world enough as an active employee.

I'm not maxing out my 401(k) and Roth so that I can have free travel when I retire. In fact, travel benefits are not even on the radar.

Personally, and everyone's goal is different, I would like to someday own a Porsche so that when I retire I can "fly" down my local roads.
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Old 03-02-2012 | 09:48 AM
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Please google "are you being delphied".

This is what they did to us during the survey's and committees regarding pass travel.
This is what they're doing during the contract talks.
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Old 03-02-2012 | 04:54 PM
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I'll sell you a 2005 Carrera S. Great cars. Just looking to get into something else.
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Old 03-02-2012 | 09:45 PM
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Why don't you use your retirement to BUY a ticket? Staying at a job until you're on the verge of death in order to keep standby travel privileges seems foolish to me.
I'd say I agree with you but for one reason: my mom and dad are 85 and 88 and nowhere near the verge of death. They get pretty good pass bennies too.

Long lifelines in my family so I should be pretty good shape at 65. Of course, I'll be flying the Airbus, drop as many trips as I can, and maybe when I get ragged by some snot nosed flight manager, I'll just ******in' say "I quit. Today. Right now! You got a flight to cover. C-ya!"

See, I would quit today except I haven't finished taking everything I can from this company while giving back as little as possible. Kinda like they've been treating me for the last 25 years.

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Old 03-02-2012 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Once United
A study was done on the actual Non-Rev travel that retirees do and not as much as you would think. ( The joint CAL/UAL pass committee did the study ) It was designed to be a smack in the face of UAL retirees. I'd guess you would be in favor of pilot and F/A commuters having a higher priority when commuting to work - A very bad Idea!

Can you find/name any other industry in which retired employees receive better benefits than active employees?
Not anymore.

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Old 03-02-2012 | 11:05 PM
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I checked with a friend of mine who works in ORD, and she said that retirees will still get those 8 free passes per year. These are fee waived as well as a higher priority than someone not using those 8 freebies.
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Old 03-03-2012 | 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by throttleweenie
...See, I would quit today except I haven't finished taking everything I can from this company while giving back as little as possible...
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With the exception of the fine young men and women who serve or have served in the military, make the words "country" and "company" interchangeable, that statement is sort of like most in America.

Arguably, one of our most pressing problems systemically regardless the scale.
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Old 03-03-2012 | 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by hesitant
I checked with a friend of mine who works in ORD, and she said that retirees will still get those 8 free passes per year. These are fee waived as well as a higher priority than someone not using those 8 freebies.
Yes, that is true. That was announced last year when the new travel program was outlined. Those passes, when used strategically, will give them super-seniority boarding priority. They won't retain that priority for all their travel, but for trips that are really important and desired it certainly will give a leg up even over active employees who use vacation passes.
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Old 03-03-2012 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Old UCAL CA
With the exception of the fine young men and women who serve or have served in the military, make the words "country" and "company" interchangeable, that statement is sort of like most in America...

Hey Rush, thanks for painting the rest of us with such a broad brush!

I guess that since I didn't serve I'm just a low life, sucking off the government teat. Along with everyone in my family, almost every one of my high school and college buds, almost every pilot I flew with at two different commuters, their families etc and a huge chunk of the American population that goes to work and pays their taxes.
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Old 03-03-2012 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by EWRflyr
Yes, that is true. That was announced last year when the new travel program was outlined. Those passes, when used strategically, will give them super-seniority boarding priority. They won't retain that priority for all their travel, but for trips that are really important and desired it certainly will give a leg up even over active employees who use vacation passes.
Do you remember if CAL over 25 years got fire tickets? I seem to remember something about the average retired UAL employee with 25 years or more got free unlimited passes at a higher boarding priority. Correct me if I wrong, but the study said they only used 4-6 passes a year on average within 5 years of retiring and it dropped off considerably after that. So the UAL retirees didn't lose much and the CAL retirees gained. As far as active employees, it's close to a wash unless they use up their Vacation passes(commuting). Still think higher priority for commuters is a mistake.
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