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Old 03-04-2012 | 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Outsider
Most of the people I knew and know were stunned by the fact that they didn’t even go to the bother of offering a choice for everyone to simply board by seniority regardless of active or retired. There should be no groups.
There was plenty of space in the survey to add your own comments in essay, word form. Just because the option wasn't one the company showed, there was no reason to be stunned nor can the employees say they couldn't give their two cents.
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Old 03-04-2012 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by EWRflyr
There was plenty of space in the survey to add your own comments in essay, word form. Just because the option wasn't one the company showed, there was no reason to be stunned nor can the employees say they couldn't give their two cents.

"And the survey said!" No, the survey was designed to give the results the company wanted. Truth be told they would like to use the pass system as a rewards program for loyal employees. Remember those people that got super priority in boarding, I don't think they went away they just changed their boarding priorty code.

Does anybody have a copy of the new combined boarding priorty codes?

What is the difference between Family Vacation Pass and Vacation ePass?
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Old 03-04-2012 | 08:11 AM
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The most fair way is service time.

It is complete and utter BS that someone throwing bags on the ramp who has been with the company for 6 months gets a higher priority than someone who retires with 35 years of service and dedication to the company (like I will have, since now I have to stay until age 65!)
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Old 03-04-2012 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by iahflyr
The most fair way is service time.

It is complete and utter BS that someone throwing bags on the ramp who has been with the company for 6 months gets a higher priority than someone who retires with 35 years of service and dedication to the company (like I will have, since now I have to stay until age 65!)
You dont work there anymore and yet you STILL get to fly for FREE. The sense of entitlement is sickening.
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Old 03-04-2012 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by A320
I think that every employee active or retired should have their active years of service determine boarding priority. A retiree with 27 years active service gets on ahead of a 26 year active employee.
You must not commute. Miss a couple of trips and I'm sure you'll be changing your tune real quick..................
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Old 03-04-2012 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by iahflyr
The most fair way is service time.

It is complete and utter BS that someone throwing bags on the ramp who has been with the company for 6 months gets a higher priority than someone who retires with 35 years of service and dedication to the company (like I will have, since now I have to stay until age 65!)
If you have to stay till you're 65 then you have NO ONE to blame but YOURSELF. Seriously, you had no idea that you had to save for retirement? Give me a break. Dedication has NOTHING to do with a new hire who gets ONE WEEK of vacation a YEAR, pathetic wages, and not very many benefits. You must be one of those who believes the ultra rich don't have enough and the poorest have too much.
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Old 03-04-2012 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by iahflyr
It sounds like the new pass travel system is beginning today for United. The biggest change is retirees with 25+ years seniority will now go below all active employees (even those with 6 months of service). This is a major blow for current retirees and all of us who plan on actually retiring someday.

My plan was always to retire early and travel the world on my retiree pass travel at the highest seniority level. Now it seems like I will be staying until I reach age 65 (or whatever the mandatory retirement age gets raised to) in order to keep my high seniority pass travel. Looks like those of you on the low end of the seniority list will be stuck with us senior guys for even longer now. I am sure there are other pilots who plan on staying around longer now to keep their pass travel benefits. We are our own worst enemies sometimes.
Retirees do get Vacation Passes just like active employees... and their priority is higher (due to YOS)... you are correct that once they use up their stash of Vacation priority passes they are then racked/stacked behind active employees... but i think that is fair.

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Old 03-04-2012 | 10:20 AM
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you are correct that once they use up their stash of Vacation priority passes they are then racked/stacked behind active employees... but i think that is fair.
4 round trips a year? That would last me a few months. Why don't they get something like 8-10 round trips a year. That would be more fair.

And whoever made the entitlement comment, I think it is ridiculous that you feel that you are entitled to higher pass benefits than someone who has given 25+ years of service.

BTW I am still an active pilot. I just plan on retiring someday.
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Old 03-04-2012 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ugleeual
Retirees do get Vacation Passes just like active employees... and their priority is higher (due to YOS)... you are correct that once they use up their stash of Vacation priority passes they are then racked/stacked behind active employees... but i think that is fair.
as LONG as managment didn't get priority boarding as they did at Continental?? Then I think the whole thing is fair. We'll getwhat we Get and Nothing more. And as far as commuting? You choose to live where you live, If you're got to jump through HOOPS to get to work then that's YOUR PROBLEM! That haso ta doggone thing to do with the pass requirements. Put on a Uniform and Jumpseat! That! everybody else Can't do.
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Old 03-04-2012 | 10:59 AM
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just checkedout the new pass travel website, booking the flight was easy and quick.
go to the left side of the screen and check your seniority in your profile to make sure it's correct and also check your eligibles are listed. All I have is my wife and she's on my profile.
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