I think that every employee active or retired should have their active years of service determine boarding priority. A retiree with 27 years active service gets on ahead of a 26 year active employee.

 

CAL pilots got FREE travel after 10 years of service, didn't have to wait to 25.

Quit trying to make this MERGER about who gained and who lost.

The truth is, so far EVERYONE is losing.

 

Does the sun ever shine in CLE?

 

Don't know about the rest, but I did the VN thing so nobody else would ever have to do it. I'm sure most of the guys/gals in combat or been in combat feel the same way.

 

I love how all of the active duty group is willing to through those who gave them an airline to work for in the first place under the bus, and their own retirement benefits under the bus to boot.

 

No, Not really.

I think we are in for a long dark spell until Jeffy gets the boot. I think that is something we can all agree on.

Then the sun will shine in Cleveland!

 

Let me try this:
Under UALs previous pass travel policy, only retirees with 25 yrs or more were given a higher boarding priority and that was only domestic, no international.
This was the only group of people singled out for any special treatment.
Very few people actually liked this and that included the retirees themselves.
All other retirees -25 didn’t get this important domestic privilege.
Most of the 25+ retirees that I know didn’t even want to get on ahead of people with more “seniority”; they actually felt guilty about it.
Over the years many people tried to change this but the company was insistent that our 25+ people should get something and so they came up with this ridiculous idea because they ran out of gold watches.
Think about it for a moment; everybody is boarding by seniority, if this group lost this bump they would simply revert back to their original seniority and get on ahead of most of the same people they were getting on ahead of anyway. This was essentially a meaningless benefit and everybody knew it.
Importantly, this was the only group of people, boarding out of order.
Then along comes CO with all their groups of special people, boarding under numerous conditions and circumstances. Importantly here, they are used to, having groups with special “jump the line” privileges.
So they run a sham survey, form some committees and come up with this ridiculous set of boarding priorities.
Most of the people I knew and know were stunned by the fact that they didn’t even go to the bother of offering a choice for everyone to simply board by seniority regardless of active or retired. There should be no groups.
I don’t think the vast majority of retirees want better benefits than anyone else they would just like (and deserve) equal benefits, after all it’s the only one left.
I know a baker, when he was an active co-worker he got a bakers dozen and when he retired he got a bakers dozen.

 

And...the active pilots are the ones who have kept this company in business and give the retirees a place to use their passes.

 

I wouldn't euthanize my parents either, but that's just me. It must really be about you.

 

"I wouldn't euthanize my parents either, but that's just me. It must really be about you."

??? Not too sure about that analogy, Aristotle...