Delta + a dollar....
05-17-2012 | 04:48 PM
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No doubt, scope is the most important issue. Saw this in the Delta thread:
Been swamped lately, but I just wanted one last shot at emphasizing the importance of scope. I had a teleconference yesterday with attorneys from a multi-disciplined firm on another topic. After the call, I asked one who was versed in labor law why it was that courts keep deciding that unions do NOT have the right to strike over an attempt to regain losses in the scope of their work. The answer was sickeningly simple. She said that once a union voluntarily gives up areas of the work they will perform for the company; those jobs are no longer their jobs. From that point forward they are another person’s job, and as such, you cannot use the bludgeon of a strike to mandate the “stealing” of another person’s job.
If we end up not liking any sections outside of scope, we can always force a job action to fix it if management refuses to budge. If we end up not liking scope, there’s NOTHING we can do about it unless management decides to give it up voluntarily. When this TA comes out and allows more 76 seat jets to be flown by non-Delta pilots, understand that a YES vote from you means you’re not only giving Delta jobs away to other companies, but you are relinquishing your right to EVER retrieve them again. DALPA should be warning everyone of this wrinkle in labor law, but they apparently cannot do so without incurring the worry of a DFR suit.
Scope is different. Scope is not like anything else in our contract. If we send this back to the Negotiating Committee with a note saying that we’re fine with everything except you must remove ANY concessions in section 1, it would put the company in a hell of a position. If they say NO, they will have unmasked themselves as to their real plan. If they say YES, then the pilots of Delta Air Lines will have set the new industry benchmark for the end of voluntarily giving more of our jobs to another company and losing them permanently.
Think hard ladies and gentlemen. Think really hard.
Carl
If we end up not liking any sections outside of scope, we can always force a job action to fix it if management refuses to budge. If we end up not liking scope, there’s NOTHING we can do about it unless management decides to give it up voluntarily. When this TA comes out and allows more 76 seat jets to be flown by non-Delta pilots, understand that a YES vote from you means you’re not only giving Delta jobs away to other companies, but you are relinquishing your right to EVER retrieve them again. DALPA should be warning everyone of this wrinkle in labor law, but they apparently cannot do so without incurring the worry of a DFR suit.
Scope is different. Scope is not like anything else in our contract. If we send this back to the Negotiating Committee with a note saying that we’re fine with everything except you must remove ANY concessions in section 1, it would put the company in a hell of a position. If they say NO, they will have unmasked themselves as to their real plan. If they say YES, then the pilots of Delta Air Lines will have set the new industry benchmark for the end of voluntarily giving more of our jobs to another company and losing them permanently.
Think hard ladies and gentlemen. Think really hard.
Carl
05-17-2012 | 04:49 PM
#32
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What you are describing is such a simple concept yet so hard to grasp for so many.
05-17-2012 | 04:53 PM
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