Well heck as long as you would be happy I guess we should jump at it.

Only about half the number they'll need to get rid of as they park the 747s, if they choose to park them at the same rate as 787s are delivered.

@Texas... PLEASE just stay where you are! If you think a contract that none of us has seen, strictly rumors, is the best thing since sliced bread... You deserve the RJ. Drink the management cool-aide...live in your work for pennies world of flying. When you are ready to think larger, accept a better life, and fight for what you deserve...MAYBE then you should "apply"

I wouldn't try debating on here, APC tends to be the vocal milant minority as the passing of the Delta TA showed. If the TA is reasonably close to Delta's, it'll pass with ease. There's just too much money at risk. Doubt UNICAL pilots will be as militant as the US Air guys who have cost themselves hundreds of thousands of dollars because of their egos

Uh...I don't consider myself militant but I simply will not give concessions from my CONCESSIONARY CONTRACT!!!! To me, anything above 50 seat jets is a concession. Unless about 95% of the pilots that I fly with are lying to me then we are mostly militant.

Too bad one can't hold 737 FO at DAL in year 2, 3, or 4. A line would be 12 years in some cities.

Holding your scope at 50 seats is unrealistic and unreasonable. Only way you will keep 50 seat scope is if you continue to keep your current CAL contract and remain separate from UAL pilots.

I believe most mainline pilots rightfully see anything 76 seats or less and below 86,000 lbs a lost cause at mainline, so your viewpoint is in the minority

That will drastically come down in the next 10 years. Heck, anyone who gets hired at DAL in the next couple years is looking at a 10 yr upgrade based on no growth and every pilot retiring at 65

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So, almost all cal pilots are lying to me...great.

Can't wait to vote no though!

This is the same mentality that allowed RJs to be flown by regional carriers in the first place.

Instead of flying a 70 seat CRJ at regional airline wages, you should be flying it at mainline wages, on a mainline seniority list, with a mainline pilot career ahead of you looking forward to progressing to 787 FO and retiring as a 777 Captain. Instead you're stuck at a regional airline, at regional airline wages, praying your company is not whipsawed against another regional for lower wages and eventually eliminated. Once you upgrade to the left seat your career progression is over, unless you get hired by one of the mainline carriers, which are shrinking because of the outsourcing you advocate.


You shouldn't be telling us to give up the fight, Noob/lurking management poster, you should be screaming at mainline pilots NOT to give up the fight against outsourcing.

I don't know any right seaters at Cal who are willing to give up 50 seat Scope.