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Old 04-19-2013 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by April 18, p 1065

Q. [from UAL attorney to member of MC] Have you been known in the dead of night to have posted from time to time on ExpressJet Forums.

A. It's been a long time, but yes, I have.

MR. FREUND: Thank you. That's all I have.

THE [CAL] WITNESS: Oh, boy.

MR. FREUND: Nothing ever disappears from the web.
Well, it is going to interesting to hear what he said on a forum that may soon be part of an SLI arbitration transcript. In the overly dramatic "dead of night" no less.

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Old 04-19-2013 | 08:32 AM
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There was a very interesting exchange late yesterday. They are talking about furloughed pilots who did not opt to take a position at CAL, and Mr. Katz is the lawyer representing CAL ALPA (for anyone that didn't already know that.)

MR. KATZ:
Absolutely. Those 7-B pilots remain on the United Airlines system seniority list, and they -- they will take their number on the merged list based on this panel's decision.
My understanding.


MR. FREUND:
That's correct.

ARBITRATOR EISCHEN:
Can I get a stip(ulation) on that?

MR. FREUND:
Yes.

MR. KATZ:
Yes.

ARBITRATOR EISCHEN:
Fine. Okay, great.


Maybe, it's just me, but it sure seems that Arbitrator Eischen has some notion of what the plan is for the 7-B folks and is saying "I don't wanna hear any whining when the list comes out." Now who is he thinking of . . . that we won't know 'til the end.

This is more fun than I expected. Of course when I lose 10% relative seniority and end up a bottom FO in EWR maybe then I won't thinks it's so funny.
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Old 04-19-2013 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by APC225
Well, it is going to interesting to hear what he said on a forum that may soon be part of an SLI arbitration transcript. In the overly dramatic "dead of night" no less.
You mean his 3,167 posts on that forum where he shares his thoughts on seniority integrations, national lists, and other things like that?

Some of them are really interesting....
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Old 04-19-2013 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by LAX Pilot
You mean his 3,167 posts on that forum where he shares his thoughts on seniority integrations, national lists, and other things like that?

Some of them are really interesting....
Yea, I tried an old logon but was denied.
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Old 04-19-2013 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by LAX Pilot
You mean his 3,167 posts on that forum where he shares his thoughts on seniority integrations, national lists, and other things like that?

Some of them are really interesting....
You mean the last one that was in January 2011, had a total of 8 posts back to Oct 2010, then nothing until May of 2008. Really?
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Old 04-19-2013 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by APC225
Yea, I tried an old logon but was denied.
It won't let you click on his name and see his posts, but using google you can find some interesting stuff...

Like where he talks about how great it would be to be a widebody first officer, only working 10 days a month and travelling the world. He refers to widebody first officer as "living the good life" and "chilling out".

In another post he talks about that same seniority can also be a 737 Captain and work more days then says "who'd want to do that?"

With regards to a 737 Captain making slightly more than a widebody FO he has an opinion on that as well....

Then he says "This stuff isn't all about the money and shouldn't be".
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Old 04-19-2013 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Lerxst
You mean the last one that was in January 2011, had a total of 8 posts back to Oct 2010, then nothing until May of 2008. Really?
Really. If in 2004 a pilot believes that being a widebody FO is a better job than a 737 Captain, its probably still true. The job hasn't changed in the last 10 years, and isn't going to moving forward.

So this "stovepipe" discussion and "Captains merged with Captains" just goes to show a great deal of hypocrisy.

You can't just argue base pay rates with regards to what is a better job. This CAL pilot stated his preference on a public forum.

I agree with him. Widebody F/O is a better job that narrowbody Captain.
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Old 04-19-2013 | 09:37 AM
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And 9 years later.. after flying at a Mainline he has a different opinion.. so what?

If you're betting that an Internet Post from years back is going to influence the Arbitrators, you are not giving those 3 people the credit they deserve.

Motch

PS> My opinions on some things have changed dramatically over a decade, and in some cases they haven't changed at all and instead have gotten stronger~
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Old 04-19-2013 | 09:40 AM
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Oh, and my "opinions" will most likely not have ANY bearing on the Arbitrators decisions.

One schmuck pilot out of 12000+?! LOL

We are all entitled to our opinions. Facts are another thing. Both sides will try to spin the "Facts" in their way. It will be up to an Arbitrator to determine what the "Facts" really are.

We will know that by end of August (hopefully)
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Old 04-19-2013 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by horrido27
One schmuck pilot out of 12000+?! LOL

We are all entitled to our opinions.
Absolutely.

It just happens that this person's opinions are being presented as testimony so the standard of 'schmuckness' is elevated.
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