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Old 04-20-2013 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot
Just wondering if you were a 2005 hire at CAL and holding a CA slot, would you be advocating what you do now? I hardly doubt it....... Hard to understand how a pilot that was on property for only a year
should go senior to someone who's never been furloughed and been on property for eight years. Where is the fairness in that?
It's a shame that your MEC, merger committee, and merger council don't seem familiar with the concept of longevity. You do realize that longevity and DOH can be different right?

Let me ask you a few questions >> A Jan 2008 hire at CAL has at MOST 5 yrs and 2 months longevity (assuming they weren't furloughed...which I believe they were). I (Jan 1997 hire) have 16 years and 2 months longevity (I was never furloughed). Your proposed list has me in the middle of that group...where is the fairness in that??

You guys might want to think about the concept of longevity.
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Old 04-20-2013 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot
Just wondering if you were a 2005 hire at CAL and holding a CA slot, would you be advocating what you do now? I hardly doubt it....... Hard to understand how a pilot that was on property for only a year
should go senior to someone who's never been furloughed and been on property for eight years. Where is the fairness in that?
I was a 96 hire and held a captain slot in 2000. Then 9/11 came. Then I was a 96 hire and got to Airbus Captain. Then oil shot through 150/barrel. Then congress raised retirement age to 65. I was already on my second left seat upgrade when you got hired by a major. I've been on the property, never furloughed, for over 16 years, have sat in the left seat for three of those years, have been 6 months junior to the junior captain for the last 5 years (thanks to age 65). And, I understand how you want to hold on to what you have. With no "system flush", you will. Just realize that what your MEC proposes essentially eradicates 10 years of work and that, if it were to be implemented, my career would be better if I resigned and became a new hire at Southwest. THAT'S how out of touch that CAL proposed SLI is.

Just wondering how YOU'D feel under the same circumstances, if you were a 96 UAL hire.
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Old 04-21-2013 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Sunvox
I am sorry if my approach to analyzing previous awards is upsetting to you...

Again sorry if the historical facts upset you.
Your not sorry and, trust me, I'm not upset. In fact I'm not the least interested in your analysis or your "historical facts". My initial point was that both sides are bringing equities to the table and I was trying to objective in allowing that both sides have valid arguments. Thanks for making it abundantly clear what a waste of time any attempt at objectivity is with s-UAL. Please return to your regularly scheduled pedantic bickering. If you really want to debate the validity of your "absolutes" I'll look forward to having that discussion in September...

In the meantime, thanks for the link.
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Old 04-21-2013 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 13n144e
I'll look forward to having that discussion in September...

In the meantime, thanks for the link.

No prob, and I agree can't wait for September.
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