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Old 04-17-2013 | 11:07 AM
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Pick and choose as you will,accept it your airline had been in steady decline .Basically a small airline with big old jets no plan, nothing..... Maybe the culture of arrogance with be silenced at the end of all this.What ever the outcome, I am sure the s ual guys will sue..So go ahead pull excerpts from the transcripts and gloat...yes you Lee. kind of sad you can't accept your airlines decline over the years ....too bad so sad......
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Old 04-17-2013 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Maxepr1
Pick and choose as you will,accept it your airline had been in steady decline .Basically a small airline with big old jets no plan, nothing..... Maybe the culture of arrogance with be silenced at the end of all this.What ever the outcome, I am sure the s ual guys will sue..So go ahead pull excerpts from the transcripts and gloat...yes you Lee. kind of sad you can't accept your airlines decline over the years ....too bad so sad......
I have been with United for 24 uninterrupted years. For a declining airline, funny I never had any concerns about not being paid, until this merger that is. UCH can't even figure out how to pay us on time. Over the last year the paychecks don't show on time and when they do, they are incomplete.
Regarding the Transcripts, If you can figure out how to post 259 pages here on the forum in one post, please share it with us so that I can post the entire documents. I have actually read through both transcripts (15th and 16th). The part I quoted above was just one of many examples of the far reaching weak arguments being used. Its actually funny to read. Tomorrow I will be there in person, its free admission and probably more entertaining than the improv! what is you name? I am not hiding as you can tell. Since I am in plain view, why don't you go run to your friend Fred and squeal.

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Old 04-17-2013 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by LeeMat
The part I quote above was just one of many examples of the far reaching weak arguments being used. Its actually funny to read.
You mean where the UAL attorney is cross examining and he asks the CAL guy about UAL's orders for 25 firm 787 orders and 50 options, plus the 25 firm A-350 orders and the 50 options and the CAL guy basically can't define "firm" because he doesn't know what that means!?

Or when they mentioned the first delivery of the A-350 the CAL attorney said that wasn't going to happen for 5 years and may not happen...then the UAL attorney said that 2015 was only 2 years away.
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Old 04-17-2013 | 11:49 AM
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You mean where the UAL attorney is cross examining and he asks the CAL guy about UAL's orders for 25 firm 787 orders and 50 options, plus the 25 firm A-350 orders and the 50 options and the CAL guy basically can't define "firm" because he doesn't know what that means!?

Or when they mentioned the first delivery of the A-350 the CAL attorney said that wasn't going to happen for 5 years and may not happen...then the UAL attorney said that 2015 was only 2 years away.
Like I said funny stuff indeed!
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Old 04-17-2013 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by LAX Pilot
Or when they mentioned the first delivery of the A-350 the CAL attorney said that wasn't going to happen for 5 years and may not happen...then the UAL attorney said that 2015 was only 2 years away.
He was referencing 5 years from the firmed up order commitment date just prior to MAD. And may not happen is true based upon our experience with the 787 order placed in 2005 compared to where we are today. A350 first flight scheduled for just after the Paris air show this year, so mid-June-ish.
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Old 04-17-2013 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Lerxst
He was referencing 5 years from the firmed up order commitment date just prior to MAD. And may not happen is true based upon our experience with the 787 order placed in 2005 compared to where we are today. A350 first flight scheduled for just after the Paris air show this year, so mid-June-ish.
And even with the delay you got the 787 just like we will and the A-350. So that actually helps bolster the case. Thanks!
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Old 04-17-2013 | 12:04 PM
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And even with the delay you got the 787 just like we will and the A-350. So that actually helps bolster the case. Thanks!
Be sure to mention me fondly to Freund when you bring forth this revelation!
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Old 04-17-2013 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxepr1
Pick and choose as you will,accept it your airline had been in steady decline .Basically a small airline with big old jets no plan, nothing..... Maybe the culture of arrogance with be silenced at the end of all this.What ever the outcome, I am sure the s ual guys will sue..So go ahead pull excerpts from the transcripts and gloat...yes you Lee. kind of sad you can't accept your airlines decline over the years ....too bad so sad......
If UAL is a "small" airline...what does that make CAL??

You CAN do basic math...right?
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Old 04-17-2013 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by untied
If UAL is a "small" airline...what does that make CAL??

You CAN do basic math...right?
The numbers showed at the merger that UAL had 10 more airframes than CAL, but CAL flying more; and much more international. How's your math?
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Old 04-17-2013 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Ottopilot
The numbers showed at the merger that UAL had 10 more airframes than CAL, but CAL flying more; and much more international. How's your math?
Cal flew more shorter flights. A 737 flies 4 legs with 2 pilots. A 747 flies one long leg with 4 piliots.

So you can argue CAL is bigger because they fly more flights with less pilots, or you can use common sense.
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