Profit Sharing Violation
06-21-2013, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Moombabeach
Would you as a CAL pilot have shown up to work when all other employees were handed profit sharing??? I wouldn't.
06-21-2013, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by APC225
There are a lot of pilots who agree with you. And that was precisely the point. It should have played out as you describe. It may have greatly accelerated the JCBA process. Profit sharing broke the fever, so to speak, for LCAL pilots and then they claimed an agreement months before it was done. Got them through the summer. And here we are still languishing through another summer under C'02 pending implementation of "joint CMS" and "Joint Implemenation Team."
06-21-2013, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by SpecialTracking
Profit sharing expired in your contract. Now you are endorsing a job action to recoup what was not legally yours to begin with?
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06-21-2013, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by APC225
No job action, but a loss of enthusiasm for sure.
06-22-2013, 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by APC225
No job action, but a loss of enthusiasm for sure. And it wouldn't be to recoup what we didn't negotiate, it would be to say negotiate in good faith. I'd rather have more $ per month than $3000 once.
Not a job action you say? Best of luck explaining a "loss of enthusiasm" to a federal judge.
06-22-2013, 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by SpecialTracking
You agreed with his tenet of not showing up for work when other employees received profit sharing. I showed up for work after I was told that my salary would not be raised to a commensurate level with my cal counterparts. That was after one of your own said he would delay the jcba indefinitely unless he got what he wanted. Good faith? Like I said, we have sunk into a morass.
Not a job action you say? Best of luck explaining a "loss of enthusiasm" to a federal judge.
Not a job action you say? Best of luck explaining a "loss of enthusiasm" to a federal judge.
06-22-2013, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by APC225
It's a valid point. My point is that the company's perception was that LCAL pilots not having profit sharing could be problematic (whether it would have been or not) and this provided a rare point of leverage in the process. This leverage was mishandled in my opinion. I would have rather had the better pay and rules last summer.
06-22-2013, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by CousinEddie
Yet there was no perception that over 500 Captain bids being exclusive to the CAL side would be problematic.
You must not have got the memo? CAL saved us, so they can do anything they want and it's all good as long as it benifits the L-CAL group and not the L-UAL group.
06-22-2013, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by APC225
It's a valid point. My point is that the company's perception was that LCAL pilots not having profit sharing could be problematic (whether it would have been or not) and this provided a rare point of leverage in the process. This leverage was mishandled in my opinion. I would have rather had the better pay and rules last summer.
06-22-2013, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by APC225
It's a valid point. My point is that the company's perception was that LCAL pilots not having profit sharing could be problematic (whether it would have been or not) and this provided a rare point of leverage in the process. This leverage was mishandled in my opinion. I would have rather had the better pay and rules last summer.
I completely agree. It was a pivotal point, and management knew it.
They played it well with JPos, and we all collectively missed a chance at gaining much needed JCBA leverage.
Sadly JPos has set us back years in our collective efforts to unify this pilot group. I hope we can all move past this chapter quickly, and JPos returns to the line, where he can reap what he has sown.
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