Looking back, it appears the TPG guys were the business geniuses behind CALs turnaround. Unfortunately they cashed out, and left you with Jeffy and Friends of Fred. You truly do belong at UAL now.

Welcome to ou rudderless ship.

 

No he will just chop 20% of the company so he can try to merge with US Airways.

 

Tilton was never hired to run an airline. His sole purpose was to extract as much cash out of United he could. What he didn't want to do was get involved in the operation. He let those that knew how - do. He just needed it to operate to mask his action of asset extraction.

He is not an airline guy he's a bankruptcy/money guy. He spent the first two years talking about 2 things - on time performance and consolidation. He could talk intelligently about these thing but airline operations - he's still clueless. He did his job well. He extracted all the "Golden Eggs" the "Golden Goose" had without killing it.

United had several CEO's like Jeff - Tilton is who you get to clean up their messes. We need an airline guy that is capable of running an airline the size of the new United. Jeff is trying to run the new United on the "CAL model" and that model(no offense) is a regional airline model but it's all Jeff knows. Sooner he's gone the better the chances of our airlines survival and success.

 

What a coincidence. Smisek was never hired to run an airline either, just to combine two companies. After the last CAL CEO walked away from the merger at the last minute they replaced him with someone who would do it. I suspect he'll be replaced after things settle down into a steady state, if that's a state that even exists.

 

Delta poached the brains behind CAL's very successful expansion into Europe, and it's paying off for them. To characterize the CAL operation as 'regional' is pure ignorance.

 

Hope you are right - the sooner, the better!

 

You guys get spun-up way to easily. Give it a break..... It shows you insecurity.

 

I get spun up too easily?? I was simply pointing out the ignorance of your 'CAL is a regional airline' comment.

I've flown at CAL for 26 years and have operated scheduled widebody service into destinations as diverse as Bali, Hong Kong, Sydney, Tokyo, Osaka, Nagoya, Rio, Sao Paulo, Santiago, Lagos, virtually every major city in Europe, Mumbai, Delhi, Shanghai, Tel-aviv, and a few others that I don't even recall.

Calling CAL a regional airline may be a good strategy for your SLI aspirations, but it certainly isn't based on anything factual.

 

UAL had given up on a CAL deal and was in deep merger discussions with US Airways in early 2010. Tilton and Parker were both eager to do that deal. It would have happened if Smisek, upon learning how far along the discussions were, hadn't personally called Tilton and intervened. By that time, CAL management and the Board knew that the CAL business plan was dead given the dramatic changes in the industry.

 

There you go - SLI is over we're just waiting on the results. Do you only look for things that greed controls to direct your arguments. If you have 26 years, you'll be about the same on either the CAL or UAL proposed list - you'll be ok.

Get over yourself, I didn't say "CAL is a regional airline". Well, not this time. Jeff is not a big airline CEO and unfortunately, he doesn't have enough big airline types below him to make our airline competitive. They are not doing a very good job of maintaining the domestic operation. Be offend all you want but what I've seen in the domestic and international operations we are operating on a regional airline model.

We now celebrate getting new 737, 787 not being grounded (the company stopped calling it the Dreamliner - it's now just called "Sparky"), The 747 allocation fiasco, going from a 3 class airline to a 2 class airline(chasing premium pax away) and it goes on. These are all traits of the regional airline mentality trying to run an international airline.

Be offended if you want - I don't care because our company is not doing well at what we are supposed to do well.