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jsled 10-01-2013 03:29 PM

Junior 737 Captain award is GUM....DOH 1989. :eek:

APC225 10-01-2013 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by jsled (Post 1494672)
Junior 737 Captain award is GUM....DOH 1989. :eek:

Wow. Those who upgraded after 10/10 will be static for a long time.

vspeed 10-01-2013 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by jsled (Post 1494672)
Junior 737 Captain award is GUM....DOH 1989. :eek:

Not showing that on the snapshot, looks like EWR 737 10/25/2005 ...GUM is 9/13/2005...the most junior awarded L-Ual based on vacancy in GUM is 12/21/92

vspeed 10-01-2013 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by SpecialTracking (Post 1494637)
What's up with the bottom two iah756ca?

Management, could be ground or sim instructors..note the SUP

vspeed 10-01-2013 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by APC225 (Post 1494703)
Wow. Those who upgraded after 10/10 will be static for a long time.

Maybe, maybe not, doesn't really matter with PBS as the lines are the same from 80 or above the G-line -20% anyways..static or not, pay's the same...plus with the retirements over the next 5 years, there will be plenty of flex and slop. The old staffing 'rules' still apply regardless of the new monthly vancancy/displacement scenarios: it's harder to get shoved out of a seat than awarded into one. That's purely from a financial company standpoint.

jsled 10-02-2013 12:02 AM


Originally Posted by vspeed (Post 1494844)
Not showing that on the snapshot, looks like EWR 737 10/25/2005 ...GUM is 9/13/2005...the most junior awarded L-Ual based on vacancy in GUM is 12/21/92

I am talking about awards based on vacancies on this snapshot. EWR 737 CAP has no vacancies, thus no awards (and the snapshot has no backfills or secondaries). GUM's junior award for 737 CAP is indeed 12/92 (seniority #4532)....which is the junior 737 CAP award on this snapshot.

jsled 10-02-2013 03:12 AM

Most Junior award from snapshot....cut and paste from another forum....

EWR777CA

Advertised 7, awarded 16
Sen #911, u042291 WUSTMAN, C
IAH777CA

Advertised 5, awarded 8
Sen #425, u060510 RUSSEL, J
ORD737CA

Advertised 6, awarded 6
Sen #3212, u113636 KUHN, D
DEN737CA

Advertised 20, awarded 23
Sen #4302, u136524 MCSPADDEN, R
LAX737CA

Advertised 7, awarded 19
Sen #4429, u147234 PERNU, M
GUM737CA

Advertised 20, awarded 9
Sen #4534, u147593 DU BOIS, S
LAX787CA

Advertised 25, awarded 25
Sen #1055, 0049K (scab)
EWR737FO

Advertised 20, awarded 16
Sen #12493, P1754 GRANT, ZJ
ORD737FO

Advertised 20, awarded 23
Sen #12003, N9391 HERMANN, MA
DEN737FO

Advertised 10, awarded 14
Sen #10145, N9737 BAKKE, VR
EWR737FO

Advertised 20, awarded 23
Sen #12282, N9061 LUCK, RG
EWR756FO

Advertised 20, awarded 37
Sen #7580, C6370 WHATLEY, BA
LAX787FO

Advertised 35, awarded 35
Sen #9177, G9654 HUTTEN, M
JFK320FO

Advertised 10, awarded 0
DCA320FO

Advertised 10, awarded 10
Sen #10903, M9691 HOYT, RA
ORD320FO

Advertised 10, awarded 5
Sen #9737, u223421 HURT, M
EWR737FO

Advertised 10, awarded 3
Sen #9240, u206009 TURCO, A

LeeMat 10-02-2013 04:01 AM

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untied 10-02-2013 04:52 AM


Originally Posted by vspeed (Post 1494849)
Maybe, maybe not, doesn't really matter with PBS as the lines are the same from 80 or above the G-line -20% anyways..static or not, pay's the same...plus with the retirements over the next 5 years, there will be plenty of flex and slop. The old staffing 'rules' still apply regardless of the new monthly vancancy/displacement scenarios: it's harder to get shoved out of a seat than awarded into one. That's purely from a financial company standpoint.

There are over 400 757/767 pilots in ORD. All of them (in both seats) can hold 737 Captain in ORD. When they park all the 757's, where do you think those 300 pilots will go (there will be some left flying the 767)? Let's say that 100 of them bid 737 Captain in ORD. There are currently only 112 Captain positions...

There will be bumps. The junior CAL captains will have to pick another seat.

Yes, it will be expensive.

Kilder 10-02-2013 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by untied (Post 1494933)
There are over 400 757/767 pilots in ORD. All of them (in both seats) can hold 737 Captain in ORD. When they park all the 757's, where do you think those 300 pilots will go (there will be some left flying the 767)? Let's say that 100 of them bid 737 Captain in ORD. There are currently only 112 Captain positions...

There will be bumps. The junior CAL captains will have to pick another seat.

Yes, it will be expensive.


It's cheaper for the company to have an overstaffed base rather than to bump CA's out of a seat, especially with expected retirements and growth.

The crappy UAL aircraft will be phased out slowly and allow for retirements and growth to minimize the effect of the demise of the old and decrepit planes UAL brought to the merger.

Reserve CA has actually been pretty good, pay and quality of life is pretty good. I and many of my contemporaries would not care if we sit reserve, it might be better than having a line in some cases.

The next option for us, if we were to get bumped, is to bid 787 FO where they're making as much as 737 CA with more days off due to the understaffed situation on that aircraft, I believe the fence will even make it harder on the company since you will have to find CAL pilots willing to commute or move to the liberal, high taxed communist state of California....


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