Yes, I understand that, but both the "decision and award" and the UAL C&Rs do not define "in the process of training".

That is the problem.

What words don't you understand?

Probe, can you not read??? Show me where in the arbitration and award or the UAL C&Rs it shows what "in the process of training" means and I'm good. Both the CAL C&Rs define it AND the SFO MOU define it in detail.

What is so hard to understand about that? As I said, I'm sure it will be cleared up next month.

Oh yeah. It's karma alright. Karma for the last 3 years! Been there before. Now I'm there again.

Good Day,
Longevity Sled

Never mind, I see text from the ISL Award has been repeated previously.

Just because it doesn't say what you want it say doesn't mean it's vague. ;)

VERY confusing. Kind of like date of hire was also very confusing for some folks at CAL. The Arbs didn't have much trouble figuring it out for you though. So I wouldn't worry this too has a simple definition. TIME to QUIT playing these games folks!!

It depends on what your definition of "is" is. ;)
Guys. Don't worry about this little rif. Which is worse? Let them go to training or give them displacement rights? Hopefully we can just move on. There will be plenty of vacancies in the future. JMHO.

Sled

I say let them go to training. That just puts more padding at the bottom for me when I get my bump letter in the near future. I'll just slide in on top them. No problem here.

However, being confused as to what "in training" means is pretty weak no matter how you cut it.

Yup, and then the bottom ones will get displaced anyway.

A pilot that's been through this vacancy/displacement cycle more than once could argue that it's in everybody's interest to have super junior pilots in every fleet/seat to maximize the ability of more senior pilots to bump anywhere.

This whole thing is clearly being fostered by folks who haven't quite yet grasped the methodology contained in the UPA and/or realized the SLI is over. Seniority always wins in the end.