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JohnHale 09-25-2013 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by 756IAHFO (Post 1490813)
Lost the SLI? Tell that to the UAL 1998 hire that just went junior to a CAL 2005 hire.


Yes because you guys wanted to staple that guy along with 3,000 others. The modified UAL method was chosen over the staple job. Overall a win. Correction JP lost.

LAX Pilot 09-26-2013 01:46 AM


Originally Posted by Probe (Post 1489867)
CALFO;
I have to disagree. You are looking at the UAL world through the rose-colored l-CAL glasses you have subsisted in the last 3 years. There is no system growth at UAL. There is shrinkage. Pilots don't all retire off the 777 and 400. Many retire off narrow bodies, and a not insignificant number will retire as wide body FO's.

I think the displacements will more than make up for the retirements for a while. 6 months to a year. The few vacancy bids will be on wide body captain, and 737 bases that the company plans on growing quickly. I do believe one or two 737 bases will end up with WAY too many Captains. DEN probably being the biggest as many UAL pilots will bump there.

400 retirements a year/12,000 pilots is only 3.3%. This year there are only about 300 planned retirements. 2.5% this year.

Wrong. All the growth the last 3 years was UAL growth. It was in ORD, DEN, LAX, and SFO. CAL didn't bring any growth. They just stole it from the UAL side.

Birddog 09-26-2013 04:34 AM

OK, humor isn't allowed here for a while. Back to the previous discussion.

How did you like all those openings on the Vacancy bid yesterday? Couldn't resist. I wonder how Bid 14-02D affected the number of vacancies on Bid 14-02 released yesterday? Bid 14-02D closed on 16 Sept. Does anyone want to share their award on Bid 14-02D? Previous award and new displacement award? Since Bid 14-02D is being talked about as a "Bid", is the company ever going to publish the results of Bid 14-02D in one posting? Or are they just going to notify the individual pilots who received and award via CCS message?

Skyflyin 09-26-2013 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by Probe (Post 1490798)
JohnHale? joined Sept 2013?

Staller/Carolsdanger? Again?

Yes, he's back :rolleyes:

CALFO 09-26-2013 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by LAX Pilot (Post 1490888)
Wrong. All the growth the last 3 years was UAL growth. It was in ORD, DEN, LAX, and SFO. CAL didn't bring any growth. They just stole it from the UAL side.

Lax, are you any relation to this guy?

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jsled 09-26-2013 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by JohnHale (Post 1489676)
757/767 pilots from the old Ual side should not bid off the airplane. They will have far more latitude in picking and choosing the positions they could hold with their seniority thru a bump. Just saying and Good Luck!

Yeah...Like JH says....don't nobody bid DEN 737 CAP. Wait for the bump. That's the ticket! :D

JohnHale 09-26-2013 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by jsled (Post 1491095)
Yeah...Like JH says....don't nobody bid DEN 737 CAP. Wait for the bump. That's the ticket! :D

Just saw the wish list and I think a lot of guys will be bidding. I think a lot West coast and ORD guys will jump on the CAP777IAH and Displaced JFK and IAD guys will jump on the CAP777EWR. Plenty of Narrow body bids to go around. Good Luck - 3 years has been a long time.

jsled 09-26-2013 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by JohnHale (Post 1491135)
Just saw the wish list and I think a lot of guys will be bidding. I think a lot West coast and ORD guys will jump on the CAP777IAH and Displaced JFK and IAD guys will jump on the CAP777EWR. Plenty of Narrow body bids to go around. Good Luck - 3 years has been a long time.

The Sled is in the 80% in DEN,IAH,SFO. 70% LAX, and 50% ORD :eek: 737 Cap. Too bad I won't be holding any of these this time around. Oh well. Maybe i'll just bide my time as a 10% 737 FO DEN. Decisions. Decisions.

Sled

APC225 09-26-2013 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by LAX Pilot (Post 1490888)
Wrong. All the growth the last 3 years was UAL growth. It was in ORD, DEN, LAX, and SFO. CAL didn't bring any growth. They just stole it from the UAL side.

CAL brought the hours. They had to go somewhere. UAL real estate seemed the logical place. Now sUAL pilots can take advantage of the extra hours in those bases. Your complaint is?

SpecialTracking 09-26-2013 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by jsled (Post 1491145)
The Sled is in the 80% in DEN,IAH,SFO. 70% LAX, and 50% ORD :eek: 737 Cap. Too bad I won't be holding any of these this time around. Oh well. Maybe i'll just bide my time as a 10% 737 FO DEN. Decisions. Decisions.

Sled

The Sled won't be enjoying those same Capt % after the fourth or fifth vacancy bid. Enjoy them while they last.:D


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