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Old 11-14-2013 | 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Probe
Wait till they displace 800 756 pilots and 200+ 747 pilots.
"We will screw them at every opportunity" once said one departed Sr. VP of Flight Ops. This guy left many FRIENDS behind apparently.
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Old 11-14-2013 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Slats Extend
Yeap, to be replaced by sparky, the 7scaby7!
It is true that 98% of captains are scabs, but to be fair, 98% of First Officers are not... and the staffing is three FOs to one CA.

There are so many more pilots who are not scabs flying the 787. Call it Sparky if you want, but the other moniker is not accurate. That is why the fences was a BAD idea.
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Old 11-14-2013 | 06:27 AM
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Can any of these folks bid SEA 757/767 or is that not an option?
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Old 11-14-2013 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by SVA402
Can any of these folks bid SEA 757/767 or is that not an option?
Yes, they can go to any seat system wide that has a pilot junior to them in that seat. The SEA 777 base was fairly senior. The options are lengthy. I suspect a majority will go to SFO. The captains to either the 747 or 777, the F/O's to the 747,777 as F/O's for a few and 320, 756, or 737 Captain in SFO for some. This is a small amount of bodies. I don't believe it will drive additional bumps as the cost of bumps is greater than letting the list resolve itself with retirements.
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Old 11-14-2013 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Slats Extend
Yeap, to be replaced by sparky, the 7scaby7!
You funny man...I love how the guppy was slammed and yet sooooo many senior ass lual types are bidding into it( which is very much a good move on their part)..so when the fence comes down, are you gonna bid the scab wagon?
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Old 11-14-2013 | 07:59 AM
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The Guppy is slammed because its a lousy plane to earn a living in when compared to the other types on the property. Its got 1950's systems technology with fancy glass. Its horribly uncomfortable and cramped for anyone over 5'9". The jumpseat is flat out heinous. The cabin is toight. These are the issues with it.

However, when you're flying it as a Captain and the fleet gets parked and you get bumped back to the right seat, suddenly it doesn't seem so shabby. Its still a cramped cockpit, but the additional shekels certainly help grease the skids. That's simply human nature. A bologna sandwich for lunch every day would really get old. But, it would smell pretty sweet absent any other food after a few days.

And when you're stuck for years while the black team has guys 10-14 years junior to you flying those guppies out of traditional blue team domiciles, well that will get ones dander up.

If all this is too confusing than I don't know what else to say.
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Old 11-14-2013 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by oldmako
The Guppy is slammed because its a lousy plane to earn a living in when compared to the other types on the property. Its got 1950's systems technology with fancy glass. Its horribly uncomfortable and cramped for anyone over 5'9". The jumpseat is flat out heinous. The cabin is toight. These are the issues with it.

However, when you're flying it as a Captain and the fleet gets parked and you get bumped back to the right seat, suddenly it doesn't seem so shabby. Its still a cramped cockpit, but the additional shekels certainly help grease the skids. That's simply human nature. A bologna sandwich for lunch every day would really get old. But, it would smell pretty sweet absent any other food after a few days.

And when you're stuck for years while the black team has guys 10-14 years junior to you flying those guppies out of traditional blue team domiciles, well that will get ones dander up.

If all this is too confusing than I don't know what else to say.
Clear as mud...I like the guppy, but hell, that's all I know.....scab wagon , guppy, whatever...pay my ass with lots of days off! Period!
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Old 11-14-2013 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by socalflyboy
You funny man...I love how the guppy was slammed and yet sooooo many senior ass lual types are bidding into it( which is very much a good move on their part)..so when the fence comes down, are you gonna bid the scab wagon?
Not until it stops catching on fire for at least a few years..
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Old 11-14-2013 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Slats Extend
Not until it stops catching on fire for at least a few years..
Copy that.
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Old 11-14-2013 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Eisbaer
It is true that 98% of captains are scabs, but to be fair, 98% of First Officers are not... and the staffing is three FOs to one CA.

There are so many more pilots who are not scabs flying the 787. Call it Sparky if you want, but the other moniker is not accurate. That is why the fences was a BAD idea.
Well, you couldn't tell by all the grippen and grinnin going on in LAX ops around 1100....It looks like a party for the scabs....

Concur with you on the fences but I will live with the ruling....
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