CAL reserve A B??
12-31-2013 | 12:08 PM
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You have to call to pick them up. This is until FAR 117 is ironed out. They need to make sure you're legal for the trip first.
01-01-2014 | 06:43 AM
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"20-I-6-h-(3) A Reserve may be given an add-on reassignment that begins after the completion of his current Trip. Such reassignment must comply with Section 20-L. A Reserve who is given such a reassignment shall not be given a subsequent assignment or reassignment under the provisions of Section 20-I-6-h without his concurrence."
This is a frequent one from what I've experienced. They change the trip at every hub, often extending the trip to the max days of the reserve block, ending the trip only when you're about to go illegal or hit an immoveable day off. I had one pairing last month that went to a "D" modification and another that went to "L." Some of these changes were not Reassignments but hotel changes, for there were some Reassignments as well. From what I can see, no more. This change will require the trip to end after one modification and then give us 12:45 in domicile between trips.
This is a frequent one from what I've experienced. They change the trip at every hub, often extending the trip to the max days of the reserve block, ending the trip only when you're about to go illegal or hit an immoveable day off. I had one pairing last month that went to a "D" modification and another that went to "L." Some of these changes were not Reassignments but hotel changes, for there were some Reassignments as well. From what I can see, no more. This change will require the trip to end after one modification and then give us 12:45 in domicile between trips.
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01-02-2014 | 06:06 AM
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Whats the scoop on this latest memo?
"Pilots on reserve not previously notified of a trip assignment for the following day are required to check their schedules after 1500 each day. If you are on your last day off prior to reserve, the requirement to check your schedule is shifted to a window sometime between 1800 - 2359"
So your at home on your last day off as a reservist, a commuter, and the company now wants you go check your schedule from 6pm - MIDNIGHT??? So then they can assign 2am reserve short call to you at the last minute?
"Pilots on reserve not previously notified of a trip assignment for the following day are required to check their schedules after 1500 each day. If you are on your last day off prior to reserve, the requirement to check your schedule is shifted to a window sometime between 1800 - 2359"
So your at home on your last day off as a reservist, a commuter, and the company now wants you go check your schedule from 6pm - MIDNIGHT??? So then they can assign 2am reserve short call to you at the last minute?
01-02-2014 | 06:20 AM
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In the UPA please note the notification (in hours) requirement for conversion to SC in 20-K-6-d (while on RSV days) and ALL of Section 20-K-7 (Last Day Off Prior to Reserve Days).
Here's the part that deals with 1800-2359 on the last day off that you asked about:
20-K-7-d Assignments made after 1759 on the last day off prior to reserve days shall be placed in the Pilot's schedule and the Company shall notify the Pilot by phone. The assignment shall not require the Pilot to:
20-K-7-d-(1) depart prior to 1300, for a Trip; or
20-K-7-d-(2) begin earlier than 1200, for a Short Call assignment; or
20-K-7-d-(3) report prior to 1200, for a Field Standby assignment.
20-K-7-d-(2) begin earlier than 1200, for a Short Call assignment; or
20-K-7-d-(3) report prior to 1200, for a Field Standby assignment.
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01-02-2014 | 06:41 AM
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Nope. That memo is poorly worded...there is no requirement to check CSS after 1459 as they are required to contact you from that point.
In the UPA please note the notification (in hours) requirement for conversion to SC in 20-K-6-d while on RSV days and ALL of Section 20-K-7 (Last Day Off Prior to Reserve Days).
Here's the part that deals with 1800-2359 on the last day off:
In the UPA please note the notification (in hours) requirement for conversion to SC in 20-K-6-d while on RSV days and ALL of Section 20-K-7 (Last Day Off Prior to Reserve Days).
Here's the part that deals with 1800-2359 on the last day off:
20-K-7-d Assignments made after 1759 on the last day off prior to reserve days shall be placed in the Pilot's schedule and the Company shall notify the Pilot by phone. The assignment shall not require the Pilot to:
20-K-7-d-(1) depart prior to 1300, for a Trip; or
20-K-7-d-(2) begin earlier than 1200, for a Short Call assignment; or
20-K-7-d-(3) report prior to 1200, for a Field Standby assignment.
20-K-7-d-(2) begin earlier than 1200, for a Short Call assignment; or
20-K-7-d-(3) report prior to 1200, for a Field Standby assignment.
01-02-2014 | 06:43 AM
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01-02-2014 | 07:10 AM
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Whats the scoop on this latest memo?
"Pilots on reserve not previously notified of a trip assignment for the following day are required to check their schedules after 1500 each day. If you are on your last day off prior to reserve, the requirement to check your schedule is shifted to a window sometime between 1800 - 2359"
So your at home on your last day off as a reservist, a commuter, and the company now wants you go check your schedule from 6pm - MIDNIGHT??? So then they can assign 2am reserve short call to you at the last minute?
"Pilots on reserve not previously notified of a trip assignment for the following day are required to check their schedules after 1500 each day. If you are on your last day off prior to reserve, the requirement to check your schedule is shifted to a window sometime between 1800 - 2359"
So your at home on your last day off as a reservist, a commuter, and the company now wants you go check your schedule from 6pm - MIDNIGHT??? So then they can assign 2am reserve short call to you at the last minute?
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6) Impact on Reserve Last Day Off: Because reserves are required to check their schedule on a day off between 1800 and 2359 (20-K-7 as modified by the JIT), this must be accounted for as company-required duty. A one minute duty period will be recorded at midnight of the first day on reserve (interim process pending programming changes that move this time to 1800). Following this one minute of duty, a minimum of 10 hours of rest free from duty is required.
Therefore, a reserve coming off days off is not legal to report for a trip or begin a SC/FSB until 1000 on his first day of reserve unless the crew desk achieves two-way contact (see Important Note below) or the pilot aggressively picks up an assignment. For reserves that are not coming off days off, be sure to consider this limitation and realize pilots on their first day of reserve cannot cover reports prior to 1000 unless they aggressively pick it up. Use caution when evaluating the FIFO list and make sure you consider this restriction on early reports for pilots coming off days off.
IMPORTANT NOTE: If the crew desk calls you on your last day off and achieves positive contact (two-way telephone conversation) they can give you an early SC or trip that departs as early as 0600. If such positive contact is achieved, there is no requirement to enter the 1 minute of duty at midnight but contact must be made at least 10 hours prior to the report or SC/FSB start time.
Therefore, a reserve coming off days off is not legal to report for a trip or begin a SC/FSB until 1000 on his first day of reserve unless the crew desk achieves two-way contact (see Important Note below) or the pilot aggressively picks up an assignment. For reserves that are not coming off days off, be sure to consider this limitation and realize pilots on their first day of reserve cannot cover reports prior to 1000 unless they aggressively pick it up. Use caution when evaluating the FIFO list and make sure you consider this restriction on early reports for pilots coming off days off.
IMPORTANT NOTE: If the crew desk calls you on your last day off and achieves positive contact (two-way telephone conversation) they can give you an early SC or trip that departs as early as 0600. If such positive contact is achieved, there is no requirement to enter the 1 minute of duty at midnight but contact must be made at least 10 hours prior to the report or SC/FSB start time.
20-K-7-b Assignments made from 1300 to 1459 on the last day off prior to reserve days shall be placed in the Pilot's schedule. The Company is not required to notify the Pilot.
20-K-7-c Assignments made from 1500 to 1759 on the last day off prior to reserve days shall be placed in the Pilot's schedule and the Company shall notify the Pilot by phone. The assignment shall not require the Pilot to:
20-K-7-c-(1) report prior to 0900, for a Trip or Field Standby assignment; or
20-K-7-c-(2) begin earlier than 0900, for a Short Call assignment.
20-K-7-d Assignments made after 1759 on the last day off prior to reserve days shall be placed in the Pilot's schedule and the Company shall notify the Pilot by phone. The assignment shall not require the Pilot to:
20-K-7-d-(1) depart prior to 1300, for a Trip; or
20-K-7-d-(2) begin earlier than 1200, for a Short Call assignment; or
20-K-7-d-(3) report prior to 1200, for a Field Standby assignment.
20-K-7-c Assignments made from 1500 to 1759 on the last day off prior to reserve days shall be placed in the Pilot's schedule and the Company shall notify the Pilot by phone. The assignment shall not require the Pilot to:
20-K-7-c-(1) report prior to 0900, for a Trip or Field Standby assignment; or
20-K-7-c-(2) begin earlier than 0900, for a Short Call assignment.
20-K-7-d Assignments made after 1759 on the last day off prior to reserve days shall be placed in the Pilot's schedule and the Company shall notify the Pilot by phone. The assignment shall not require the Pilot to:
20-K-7-d-(1) depart prior to 1300, for a Trip; or
20-K-7-d-(2) begin earlier than 1200, for a Short Call assignment; or
20-K-7-d-(3) report prior to 1200, for a Field Standby assignment.
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