Why are L-UAL guys wearing their old wings
02-17-2014, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by hopeSales
Your UPS buddy probable doesn't like being a pair brown shoes in a world of black tuxedoes.(forget who said that first)
He makes good money, very seldom seen in public should be proud of what "Brown does for him".
02-17-2014, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by CALFO
This is the stupidest thread in the history of forums.
The only problem with the new uniform is that it took so long for management to decide what it should look like. Just think of the hundreds of man hours wasted on choosing between blue and black, silver and good, thin or thick stripes. I would bet well over one million was spent on "designing" this uniform. That money and effort would have been better spent on planning for far117 implementation or Ccs. Any uniform could have been designed over lunch with a couple drinks.
The uniform works. It's not the best and it's not the worst. It suits the purpose of telling the passengers who is controlling the plane. In my opinion, neither the l-cal nor l-ual uniforms garnered any respect on their own accord. Rather the pilot wearing the uniform gained or lost the respect of their crew and passengers based upon their own actions.
The uniform works. It's not the best and it's not the worst. It suits the purpose of telling the passengers who is controlling the plane. In my opinion, neither the l-cal nor l-ual uniforms garnered any respect on their own accord. Rather the pilot wearing the uniform gained or lost the respect of their crew and passengers based upon their own actions.
02-17-2014, 03:07 PM
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I haven't read every response in this thread, so forgive me if this has already been said. I, as a 20 year and pin wearing ALPA member and l-UAL pilot, am wearing my old wings for several reasons. First and foremost as a protest to the complete ditching of all UAL history that the old wings represented. For the unaware, the four stars on the old wings represented the four airlines that joined in the '30's to become United Airlines and the rest of the old wings is essentially unchanged from that time period as well. The "hairnet" on our new wings is from a marketing company in the 1990's. Which has more panache? Secondly, The new wings are ugly. Thirdly, I figure if I see people wearing Navy wings, I can wear these and frankly, nobody ever notices anyway. Lastly, and here's the politically incorrect part of this comment, I was hired at UAL when it was the place to be. I know as well as anybody that UAL had many problems and bankruptcy didn't treat us well etc, etc, etc, etc. The fact remains that in the years before and after I was hired, it's a rare bird that went to CAL who wouldn't have preferred to go to UAL. I wear my wings because now a lot of those guys are senior to me, and I'm proud of my history with my first choice. Flame away boys.
02-17-2014, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by hopeSales
XHooker - you slam UPS guys by burying the disclaimer that all the bad references to UPS was 20 years ago. I'd bet UPS was a better choice than CAL back then.
"Just confirms that best practice means "THE CHEAPEST" at the new United."
"Just confirms that best practice means "THE CHEAPEST" at the new United."
02-17-2014, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ReserveDog
I haven't read every response in this thread, so forgive me if this has already been said. I, as a 20 year and pin wearing ALPA member and l-UAL pilot, am wearing my old wings for several reasons. First and foremost as a protest to the complete ditching of all UAL history that the old wings represented. For the unaware, the four stars on the old wings represented the four airlines that joined in the '30's to become United Airlines and the rest of the old wings is essentially unchanged from that time period as well. The "hairnet" on our new wings is from a marketing company in the 1990's. Which has more panache? Secondly, The new wings are ugly. Thirdly, I figure if I see people wearing Navy wings, I can wear these and frankly, nobody ever notices anyway. Lastly, and here's the politically incorrect part of this comment, I was hired at UAL when it was the place to be. I know as well as anybody that UAL had many problems and bankruptcy didn't treat us well etc, etc, etc, etc. The fact remains that in the years before and after I was hired, it's a rare bird that went to CAL who wouldn't have preferred to go to UAL. I wear my wings because now a lot of those guys are senior to me, and I'm proud of my history with my first choice. Flame away boys.
02-17-2014, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by hopeSales
Your UPS buddy probable doesn't like being a pair brown shoes in a world of black tuxedoes.(forget who said that first)...
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You gotta be REALLY old to know that!
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