Vacancy Snapshot
02-18-2014 | 06:42 AM
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From: 747 Captain, retired
Wasn't that for reopening of ORD. How many going forward will there be. To see the fence as a win proves your blindness to common sense. I'm a L-UA pilot and view the loss of growth airplanes as a complete screw up by our negotiating committee. They did a very good job for the most part, they just listened to the wrong crowd when it applied to fencing the 747.
02-18-2014 | 07:55 AM
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From: A320 Driver
It's not just LUAL, there is something about that airplane that seems to invoke a lack of rational thinking at times. Ask the old NWA guys and they will tell you the same thing. The 747 lead them down similar paths and often times made for some poor negotiating results. God help us if we ever get a Super Jumbo on the property, someone will want this uniform to set them apart! 
02-18-2014 | 08:17 AM
#23
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Does anyone know how these current max/mins were derived?
The last bid had 75 EWR76t FO vacancies to fill and roughly 15-20 were filled. but this max/min bulletin shows EWR76t FOs at max of 96 now? What happened to the rest of the 60 vacancies?
The last bid had 75 EWR76t FO vacancies to fill and roughly 15-20 were filled. but this max/min bulletin shows EWR76t FOs at max of 96 now? What happened to the rest of the 60 vacancies?
02-18-2014 | 08:47 AM
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20/20 hindsight is rearing it's ugly head. Our (l-ual) negotiating team lost several battles with Pierce, who took full advantage of the hammer he had with respect to our 2003 Bankruptcy contract signed under duress. That concessionary contract put heat on the Negotiating Team to get a deal. And Pierce stood in the way; demanding things like merged pay-scale demands with the 737 and 767-400. It was a hard swallow to agree to these demands to get a contract. So the Negotiating Team had to come thru on the fences - which historically are issues that are demanded by merged airlines. Good or Bad, they are here to stay - at least for a while. So enjoy the 787...for now
02-18-2014 | 10:55 AM
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From: EWR 777 FO
02-18-2014 | 11:13 AM
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20/20 hindsight is rearing it's ugly head. Our (l-ual) negotiating team lost several battles with Pierce, who took full advantage of the hammer he had with respect to our 2003 Bankruptcy contract signed under duress. That concessionary contract put heat on the Negotiating Team to get a deal. And Pierce stood in the way; demanding things like merged pay-scale demands with the 737 and 767-400. It was a hard swallow to agree to these demands to get a contract. So the Negotiating Team had to come thru on the fences - which historically are issues that are demanded by merged airlines. Good or Bad, they are here to stay - at least for a while. So enjoy the 787...for now
In the end, all his shenanigans failed to have any influence on the combined seniority list.
He lost.
He hurt us all (LCAL and LUAL) in the process.
Is he over in management yet??
02-18-2014 | 11:16 AM
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So, I think that these numbers are based on the current bids held by the pilots that are actually on the property.
02-19-2014 | 04:34 AM
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From: EWR 777 FO
The island flying is fun however for those who love flying and have no family.
02-19-2014 | 05:01 AM
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That sounds more realistic. I am surprised how senior the 737 in EWR is going. I'm sure as these bids continue, we will see it trend back towards a more junior position. One of the reasons it was soo junior on the CAL side premerger was because anything less than 50% in base absolutely sucked, especially during the summer. It is always chronically understaffed, very few trips are commutable and the reserves are abused. Now add in the three airport deal and there are probably some Siberian prisons that will be more welcoming. I did it for two years at about 70% in base. I still have the scars.
The island flying is fun however for those who love flying and have no family.
The island flying is fun however for those who love flying and have no family.
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